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Last Friday was the year anniversary of Last Friday was the year anniversary of Charlie Kirk's murder and the internet Charlie Kirk's murder and the internet Charlie Kirk's murder and the internet was flooded with remembrance of Charlie was flooded with remembrance of Charlie was flooded with remembrance of Charlie and unfortunately even more so all kinds and unfortunately even more so all kinds and unfortunately even more so all kinds of predatory people trying to use the of predatory people trying to use the of predatory people trying to use the memory of a fallen man for their own memory of a fallen man for their own memory of a fallen man for their own political or financial purposes. That's political or financial purposes. That's political or financial purposes. That's kind of always the case. We sat it out kind of always the case. We sat it out kind of always the case. We sat it out because that's depressing to see. But because that's depressing to see. But because that's depressing to see. But you did see uh people who knew him you did see uh people who knew him you did see uh people who knew him genuinely well and liked him and weren't genuinely well and liked him and weren't genuinely well and liked him and weren't trying to profit from his death raise trying to profit from his death raise trying to profit from his death raise the question how do we honor his memory? the question how do we honor his memory? the question how do we honor his memory? And that is a completely fair question. And that is a completely fair question. And that is a completely fair question. But it begins with a more fundamental But it begins with a more fundamental But it begins with a more fundamental question which was what was his life question which was what was his life question which was what was his life about? If you were to remember Charlie about? If you were to remember Charlie about? If you were to remember Charlie Kirk, what are the first qualities of Kirk, what are the first qualities of Kirk, what are the first qualities of his that come to mind? Of course the his that come to mind? Of course the his that come to mind? Of course the personal qualities, enthusiasm and personal qualities, enthusiasm and personal qualities, enthusiasm and decency and energy and intelligence, decency and energy and intelligence, decency and energy and intelligence, but his beliefs. Well, as someone who but his beliefs. Well, as someone who but his beliefs. Well, as someone who knew Charlie well, I would sum them up knew Charlie well, I would sum them up knew Charlie well, I would sum them up this way. He believed all kinds of this way. He believed all kinds of this way. He believed all kinds of things, but the main thing he believed things, but the main thing he believed things, but the main thing he believed was Christianity. He was a sincerely was Christianity. He was a sincerely was Christianity. He was a sincerely religious man. He was a follower of religious man. He was a follower of religious man. He was a follower of Jesus.

Jesus. Jesus. And politically, he believed a lot of And politically, he believed a lot of And politically, he believed a lot of things as well. Of course, he spent a things as well. Of course, he spent a things as well. Of course, he spent a life talking about them. But above all, life talking about them. But above all, life talking about them. But above all, he believed in free speech, he believed in free speech, he believed in free speech, the right of human beings to say what the right of human beings to say what the right of human beings to say what they think, to share their deepest they think, to share their deepest they think, to share their deepest beliefs. beliefs. beliefs. And those two were directly related. And those two were directly related. And those two were directly related. Charlie Kirk believed in free speech Charlie Kirk believed in free speech Charlie Kirk believed in free speech because he believed in God. And because because he believed in God. And because because he believed in God. And because he believed in God, he believed that he believed in God, he believed that he believed in God, he believed that each person was created by God with a each person was created by God with a each person was created by God with a distinct soul. God does not create distinct soul. God does not create distinct soul. God does not create communities. God creates individuals. communities. God creates individuals. communities. God creates individuals. And because they are individuals, And because they are individuals, And because they are individuals, sovereign individuals created in the sovereign individuals created in the sovereign individuals created in the likeness of the creator. likeness of the creator. likeness of the creator. Each one has an inherent right to say Each one has an inherent right to say Each one has an inherent right to say what he thinks to his own conscience to what he thinks to his own conscience to what he thinks to his own conscience to make up his own mind and to express make up his own mind and to express make up his own mind and to express his conclusions. So that's where the his conclusions. So that's where the his conclusions. So that's where the belief in free speech comes from. belief in free speech comes from. belief in free speech comes from. That's reflected, by the way, in the That's reflected, by the way, in the That's reflected, by the way, in the founding documents of the United States. founding documents of the United States. founding documents of the United States. These are inherent rights. They're not These are inherent rights. They're not These are inherent rights. They're not given to us by the state. We are born given to us by the state. We are born given to us by the state. We are born with them. And the purpose of the state with them. And the purpose of the state with them. And the purpose of the state is to protect them. And Charlie Kirk was is to protect them. And Charlie Kirk was is to protect them. And Charlie Kirk was a eloquent defender of this idea and a a eloquent defender of this idea and a a eloquent defender of this idea and a great explainer of this idea. Not just great explainer of this idea. Not just great explainer of this idea. Not just eloquent and good at it, but really one eloquent and good at it, but really one eloquent and good at it, but really one of the very few left or not a lot of of the very few left or not a lot of of the very few left or not a lot of people explaining why free speech is people explaining why free speech is people explaining why free speech is important and what it is. But Charlie important and what it is. But Charlie important and what it is. But Charlie Kirk spent really the entirety of his Kirk spent really the entirety of his Kirk spent really the entirety of his public life doing that up until the day public life doing that up until the day public life doing that up until the day he was murdered. We could have picked a he was murdered. We could have picked a he was murdered. We could have picked a lot of clips to show you on the question lot of clips to show you on the question lot of clips to show you on the question of Charlie Kirk and free speech, but we

of Charlie Kirk and free speech, but we of Charlie Kirk and free speech, but we just grabbed one and it's as good as just grabbed one and it's as good as just grabbed one and it's as good as any. Here's Charlie Kirk, I think last any. Here's Charlie Kirk, I think last any. Here's Charlie Kirk, I think last year, but it could have been any year, year, but it could have been any year, year, but it could have been any year, explaining what free speech is and why explaining what free speech is and why explaining what free speech is and why he defends it. Watch. he defends it. Watch. he defends it. Watch. >> I was wondering if you could talk about >> I was wondering if you could talk about >> I was wondering if you could talk about where you draw the line with um free where you draw the line with um free where you draw the line with um free speech, hate speech, and slander. speech, hate speech, and slander. speech, hate speech, and slander. >> It's a terrific question. >> It's a terrific question. >> It's a terrific question. My position um is that even hate speech My position um is that even hate speech My position um is that even hate speech should be completely and totally allowed should be completely and totally allowed should be completely and totally allowed in our country. The most disgusting in our country. The most disgusting in our country. The most disgusting speech should absolutely be protected. speech should absolutely be protected. speech should absolutely be protected. And it's not a viewpoint that is held by And it's not a viewpoint that is held by And it's not a viewpoint that is held by the left. The ACLU used to hold this the left. The ACLU used to hold this the left. The ACLU used to hold this viewpoint. The American Civil Liberties viewpoint. The American Civil Liberties viewpoint. The American Civil Liberties Union, they used they sued so that Union, they used they sued so that Union, they used they sued so that legitimate Nazis could march through legitimate Nazis could march through legitimate Nazis could march through downtown Skoi. You remember this back in downtown Skoi. You remember this back in downtown Skoi. You remember this back in the 80s and 90s? Now, why would the ACLU the 80s and 90s? Now, why would the ACLU the 80s and 90s? Now, why would the ACLU do this? Because they said as soon as do this? Because they said as soon as do this? Because they said as soon as you were use the word hate that is a you were use the word hate that is a you were use the word hate that is a very subjective term because then all of very subjective term because then all of very subjective term because then all of a sudden it is in the eyes or the it is a sudden it is in the eyes or the it is a sudden it is in the eyes or the it is in the implementation of whomever has in the implementation of whomever has in the implementation of whomever has the power. So here's my belief. The more the power. So here's my belief. The more the power. So here's my belief. The more speech the better. Well exactly. So not speech the better. Well exactly. So not speech the better. Well exactly. So not only is that answer good the question only is that answer good the question only is that answer good the question actually reveals a lot too. So the actually reveals a lot too. So the actually reveals a lot too. So the question was what's your view of free question was what's your view of free question was what's your view of free speech, hate speech and slander?

speech, hate speech and slander? speech, hate speech and slander? And Charlie didn't explain the And Charlie didn't explain the And Charlie didn't explain the difference between those three difference between those three difference between those three categories, but it's worth just pausing categories, but it's worth just pausing categories, but it's worth just pausing for a moment. So there's free speech, for a moment. So there's free speech, for a moment. So there's free speech, which as described is inherent to every which as described is inherent to every which as described is inherent to every person. You have an inherent right. You person. You have an inherent right. You person. You have an inherent right. You were born with this right. You will die were born with this right. You will die were born with this right. You will die with this right. Whether or not it's a with this right. Whether or not it's a with this right. Whether or not it's a bridged, it still exists to say what you bridged, it still exists to say what you bridged, it still exists to say what you think, to express your conscience out think, to express your conscience out think, to express your conscience out loud. There is a category called hate loud. There is a category called hate loud. There is a category called hate speech, which as Charlie just said, speech, which as Charlie just said, speech, which as Charlie just said, effectively means speech the people in effectively means speech the people in effectively means speech the people in charge hate. And there's a third charge hate. And there's a third charge hate. And there's a third category called slander. And that's a category called slander. And that's a category called slander. And that's a legal category. What's the difference legal category. What's the difference legal category. What's the difference between hate speech or ugly speech, between hate speech or ugly speech, between hate speech or ugly speech, speech I don't want to hear, and speech I don't want to hear, and speech I don't want to hear, and slander. Well, it's worth saying the slander. Well, it's worth saying the slander. Well, it's worth saying the difference is slander is by definition difference is slander is by definition difference is slander is by definition untrue. That is the legal definition of untrue. That is the legal definition of untrue. That is the legal definition of slander is factually incorrect. You are slander is factually incorrect. You are slander is factually incorrect. You are lying. You lying about somebody or lying. You lying about somebody or lying. You lying about somebody or something. something. something. Free speech and even this category Free speech and even this category Free speech and even this category called hate speech. Those are true called hate speech. Those are true called hate speech. Those are true things and therefore they cannot be things and therefore they cannot be things and therefore they cannot be abridged ever. Why? abridged ever. Why? abridged ever. Why? Because you have to have the right to Because you have to have the right to Because you have to have the right to tell the truth. And any society that tell the truth. And any society that tell the truth. And any society that doesn't protect that right collapses and doesn't protect that right collapses and doesn't protect that right collapses and is also of course morally stained. On is also of course morally stained. On is also of course morally stained. On what grounds you suppressing something what grounds you suppressing something what grounds you suppressing something that's true? So slander is by definition that's true? So slander is by definition that's true? So slander is by definition a lie, but protected speech is true or a lie, but protected speech is true or a lie, but protected speech is true or it's believed by the person who utters it's believed by the person who utters it's believed by the person who utters it to be true. And that's a meaningful it to be true. And that's a meaningful it to be true. And that's a meaningful distinction as well. I'm not lying. Of distinction as well. I'm not lying. Of distinction as well. I'm not lying. Of course, I've been wrong about a ton of course, I've been wrong about a ton of course, I've been wrong about a ton of things and will be again. But this is my things and will be again. But this is my things and will be again. But this is my sincere belief. I mean it. And that

sincere belief. I mean it. And that sincere belief. I mean it. And that includes opinions, but also claims. I includes opinions, but also claims. I includes opinions, but also claims. I believe this is true. believe this is true. believe this is true. And so if you are ruling over people, And so if you are ruling over people, And so if you are ruling over people, which is to say human beings, if you which is to say human beings, if you which is to say human beings, if you consider the people you have care over consider the people you have care over consider the people you have care over or power over to be human beings, then or power over to be human beings, then or power over to be human beings, then by definition, you can never prevent by definition, you can never prevent by definition, you can never prevent their right to say what they think is their right to say what they think is their right to say what they think is true. Of course, because by definition, true. Of course, because by definition, true. Of course, because by definition, if you do that, you are not treating if you do that, you are not treating if you do that, you are not treating them as human beings because you don't them as human beings because you don't them as human beings because you don't consider them human beings. That's how consider them human beings. That's how consider them human beings. That's how you treat a slave. You don't have to you treat a slave. You don't have to you treat a slave. You don't have to listen to what a slave says because he's listen to what a slave says because he's listen to what a slave says because he's not a human being. So in the very same not a human being. So in the very same not a human being. So in the very same way you can tell your dogs to stop way you can tell your dogs to stop way you can tell your dogs to stop barking, you can tell a slave to shut up barking, you can tell a slave to shut up barking, you can tell a slave to shut up because he doesn't have that right because he doesn't have that right because he doesn't have that right because he's not fully human. So anybody because he's not fully human. So anybody because he's not fully human. So anybody in charge who tells you you're not in charge who tells you you're not in charge who tells you you're not allowed to say something that you allowed to say something that you allowed to say something that you believe is true is not treating you as a believe is true is not treating you as a believe is true is not treating you as a human being. He's treating you as a human being. He's treating you as a human being. He's treating you as a slave. That's how he sees you. And you slave. That's how he sees you. And you slave. That's how he sees you. And you should know that because underneath the should know that because underneath the should know that because underneath the impulse to censor other people, and it's impulse to censor other people, and it's impulse to censor other people, and it's always dressed up as something else, always dressed up as something else, always dressed up as something else, concern, protection, concern, protection, concern, protection, but what really underlies it, of course, but what really underlies it, of course, but what really underlies it, of course, is malice and contempt. I hate you. I is malice and contempt. I hate you. I is malice and contempt. I hate you. I don't consider you fully human.

don't consider you fully human. don't consider you fully human. Therefore, I'm not going to allow you to Therefore, I'm not going to allow you to Therefore, I'm not going to allow you to speak. That is unmistakably the message speak. That is unmistakably the message speak. That is unmistakably the message of every attempt to censor speech. And of every attempt to censor speech. And of every attempt to censor speech. And as Charlie Kirk said pretty well in the as Charlie Kirk said pretty well in the as Charlie Kirk said pretty well in the clip we just showed you, it is always clip we just showed you, it is always clip we just showed you, it is always employed by the people in charge on employed by the people in charge on employed by the people in charge on their own behalf. In other words, their own behalf. In other words, their own behalf. In other words, censorship is the process of the people censorship is the process of the people censorship is the process of the people in charge telling you you're not allowed in charge telling you you're not allowed in charge telling you you're not allowed to criticize them. And of course, to criticize them. And of course, to criticize them. And of course, they're clever enough almost never to they're clever enough almost never to they're clever enough almost never to say that, though increasingly they are say that, though increasingly they are say that, though increasingly they are saying that, but in general, they don't. saying that, but in general, they don't. saying that, but in general, they don't. And so they dress it up and they say, And so they dress it up and they say, And so they dress it up and they say, "Well, there's some group that's somehow "Well, there's some group that's somehow "Well, there's some group that's somehow powerless and you can't criticize them powerless and you can't criticize them powerless and you can't criticize them because they don't have power and your because they don't have power and your because they don't have power and your criticism of them is cruelty and there's criticism of them is cruelty and there's criticism of them is cruelty and there's a power imbalance and you're punching a power imbalance and you're punching a power imbalance and you're punching down and we're not going to allow that down and we're not going to allow that down and we're not going to allow that on their behalf." on their behalf." on their behalf." Well, whether or not that's actually Well, whether or not that's actually Well, whether or not that's actually true, and we could debate it, the one true, and we could debate it, the one true, and we could debate it, the one thing you can be certain of is the group thing you can be certain of is the group thing you can be certain of is the group they claim to be protecting is just a they claim to be protecting is just a they claim to be protecting is just a proxy for them. proxy for them. proxy for them. It's just a proxy for them. Always It's just a proxy for them. Always It's just a proxy for them. Always attempts at censorship are an attempt to attempts at censorship are an attempt to attempts at censorship are an attempt to protect the people in charge from protect the people in charge from protect the people in charge from criticism. And as famously been noted, criticism. And as famously been noted, criticism. And as famously been noted, if you want to know who is in charge, if you want to know who is in charge, if you want to know who is in charge, ask yourself who you're not allowed to ask yourself who you're not allowed to ask yourself who you're not allowed to criticize.

criticize. criticize. That's just a fact. That's not a slur or That's just a fact. That's not a slur or That's just a fact. That's not a slur or a slander. That is a fact. Because of a slander. That is a fact. Because of a slander. That is a fact. Because of course, you would never affect course, you would never affect course, you would never affect censorship censorship censorship except in defense of your own interests. except in defense of your own interests. except in defense of your own interests. And that is 100% of the time what And that is 100% of the time what And that is 100% of the time what happens. Censorship is used to protect happens. Censorship is used to protect happens. Censorship is used to protect the powerful from criticism to gird and the powerful from criticism to gird and the powerful from criticism to gird and protect their power. Of course, there's protect their power. Of course, there's protect their power. Of course, there's no other reason for it. And because the no other reason for it. And because the no other reason for it. And because the people in charge are usually in every people in charge are usually in every people in charge are usually in every age, no matter who they are, fairly age, no matter who they are, fairly age, no matter who they are, fairly clever and ruthless, that's how they got clever and ruthless, that's how they got clever and ruthless, that's how they got there. They will almost always find some there. They will almost always find some there. They will almost always find some fairly sophisticated way to hide that fairly sophisticated way to hide that fairly sophisticated way to hide that fact. And once again, they will tell you fact. And once again, they will tell you fact. And once again, they will tell you that your criticism of their behavior is that your criticism of their behavior is that your criticism of their behavior is somehow cruelty or out of bounds. But somehow cruelty or out of bounds. But somehow cruelty or out of bounds. But no, what it really is is a threat to no, what it really is is a threat to no, what it really is is a threat to their power, of course. And so Charlie their power, of course. And so Charlie their power, of course. And so Charlie Kirk's prescription is the only Kirk's prescription is the only Kirk's prescription is the only prescription. And he said this prescription. And he said this prescription. And he said this repeatedly, if you don't like speech you repeatedly, if you don't like speech you repeatedly, if you don't like speech you hear, there is only one way. There are hear, there is only one way. There are hear, there is only one way. There are not a myriad ways, there's one way to not a myriad ways, there's one way to not a myriad ways, there's one way to combat that, and it's with more speech.

combat that, and it's with more speech. combat that, and it's with more speech. Tell me how I'm wrong. And in fact, he Tell me how I'm wrong. And in fact, he Tell me how I'm wrong. And in fact, he spent the last years of his life touring spent the last years of his life touring spent the last years of his life touring the country effectively asking crowds the country effectively asking crowds the country effectively asking crowds that. Tell me how I'm wrong. Ask me that. Tell me how I'm wrong. Ask me that. Tell me how I'm wrong. Ask me anything. I'll defend any of my anything. I'll defend any of my anything. I'll defend any of my positions. And I'll do so openly at positions. And I'll do so openly at positions. And I'll do so openly at length in public. And if he died for length in public. And if he died for length in public. And if he died for anything, it's that. In fact, he died anything, it's that. In fact, he died anything, it's that. In fact, he died doing that. doing that. doing that. And so, if you wanted to honor his And so, if you wanted to honor his And so, if you wanted to honor his memory, of course, you would try to keep memory, of course, you would try to keep memory, of course, you would try to keep that dying tradition alive. No one seems that dying tradition alive. No one seems that dying tradition alive. No one seems to be doing that. But what you wouldn't to be doing that. But what you wouldn't to be doing that. But what you wouldn't do under any circumstances is do the do under any circumstances is do the do under any circumstances is do the thing that he devoted his life to thing that he devoted his life to thing that he devoted his life to fighting, which is shutting down speech fighting, which is shutting down speech fighting, which is shutting down speech you don't like with threats or you don't like with threats or you don't like with threats or censorship or even with back of the hand censorship or even with back of the hand censorship or even with back of the hand dismissals and name calling. No, you dismissals and name calling. No, you dismissals and name calling. No, you would pause and take seriously the would pause and take seriously the would pause and take seriously the criticism even if you think it's criticism even if you think it's criticism even if you think it's illegitimate aimed at you or your illegitimate aimed at you or your illegitimate aimed at you or your beliefs and explain why it's wrong and beliefs and explain why it's wrong and beliefs and explain why it's wrong and offer a counter vision of what you think offer a counter vision of what you think offer a counter vision of what you think is right. is right. is right. This was what the right used to refer to This was what the right used to refer to This was what the right used to refer to famously as the marketplace of ideas famously as the marketplace of ideas famously as the marketplace of ideas because the idea was that the market because the idea was that the market because the idea was that the market itself was self-correcting. That was the itself was self-correcting. That was the itself was self-correcting. That was the beauty. There was an invisible hand in beauty. There was an invisible hand in beauty. There was an invisible hand in charge of the market and it would find charge of the market and it would find charge of the market and it would find natural equilibrium if you just backed natural equilibrium if you just backed natural equilibrium if you just backed off and allowed that to happen.

off and allowed that to happen. off and allowed that to happen. So if two people had opposing views, So if two people had opposing views, So if two people had opposing views, they would debate those views in public they would debate those views in public they would debate those views in public and then the people watching could and then the people watching could and then the people watching could decide which was valid on the basis of decide which was valid on the basis of decide which was valid on the basis of the strength of the arguments and the the strength of the arguments and the the strength of the arguments and the facts marshaled. facts marshaled. facts marshaled. That was the tradition of debate. In That was the tradition of debate. In That was the tradition of debate. In fact, that was the core of the western fact, that was the core of the western fact, that was the core of the western tradition of discourse tradition of discourse tradition of discourse going all the way back to Athens. And going all the way back to Athens. And going all the way back to Athens. And that's what Charlie Kirk was upholding that's what Charlie Kirk was upholding that's what Charlie Kirk was upholding when he was murdered. And what's when he was murdered. And what's when he was murdered. And what's interesting is that the last interesting is that the last interesting is that the last presidential election, the 2024 presidential election, the 2024 presidential election, the 2024 election, though very few people said election, though very few people said election, though very few people said this out loud, this out loud, this out loud, really was a referendum in part on this really was a referendum in part on this really was a referendum in part on this because it was a reaction against what because it was a reaction against what because it was a reaction against what we now refer to as wokeism or cancel we now refer to as wokeism or cancel we now refer to as wokeism or cancel culture. Well, what are those things? culture. Well, what are those things? culture. Well, what are those things? Well, they're really two things. their Well, they're really two things. their Well, they're really two things. their identity politics. The idea that on the identity politics. The idea that on the identity politics. The idea that on the basis of your bloodline, how you look, basis of your bloodline, how you look, basis of your bloodline, how you look, qualities you were born with, your qualities you were born with, your qualities you were born with, your genes, you are subject to different genes, you are subject to different genes, you are subject to different rules than other people. Certain groups rules than other people. Certain groups rules than other people. Certain groups get treated differently because of the get treated differently because of the get treated differently because of the nature of those groups. We are no longer nature of those groups. We are no longer nature of those groups. We are no longer equal in our citizenship. Some groups equal in our citizenship. Some groups equal in our citizenship. Some groups are treated differently, usually better, are treated differently, usually better, are treated differently, usually better, but sometimes worse.

but sometimes worse. but sometimes worse. And because that is true, because And because that is true, because And because that is true, because certain groups get special rights, certain groups get special rights, certain groups get special rights, certain groups are the only people who certain groups are the only people who certain groups are the only people who can use certain words, for example, can use certain words, for example, can use certain words, for example, literally. literally. literally. Because of that, we have to constrain Because of that, we have to constrain Because of that, we have to constrain the speech of everybody else. We need the speech of everybody else. We need the speech of everybody else. We need censorship in order to protect those censorship in order to protect those censorship in order to protect those groups. groups. groups. So So So to sort of move beyond the details of to sort of move beyond the details of to sort of move beyond the details of this or that specific controversy, this or that specific controversy, this or that specific controversy, that's a pretty accurate description of that's a pretty accurate description of that's a pretty accurate description of what wokeism and cancel culture were and what wokeism and cancel culture were and what wokeism and cancel culture were and are. And the truth is most people find are. And the truth is most people find are. And the truth is most people find it tiresome if not infuriating and it tiresome if not infuriating and it tiresome if not infuriating and immoral to live in a country governed by immoral to live in a country governed by immoral to live in a country governed by rules like that which are constantly rules like that which are constantly rules like that which are constantly changing, never fully explained to changing, never fully explained to changing, never fully explained to anybody, backed with by no principles anybody, backed with by no principles anybody, backed with by no principles whatsoever other than the interest of whatsoever other than the interest of whatsoever other than the interest of the people in charge and kind of no one the people in charge and kind of no one the people in charge and kind of no one likes that. Who likes that? In fact, it likes that. Who likes that? In fact, it likes that. Who likes that? In fact, it is so universally disliked is so universally disliked is so universally disliked that standard or shifting standard that standard or shifting standard that standard or shifting standard whatever suits the people in charge that whatever suits the people in charge that whatever suits the people in charge that even Alexandria Kaziocortez, even Alexandria Kaziocortez, even Alexandria Kaziocortez, congresswoman from Brooklyn, who hopes congresswoman from Brooklyn, who hopes congresswoman from Brooklyn, who hopes to run for president in this upcoming to run for president in this upcoming to run for president in this upcoming cycle, who is of course a great and cycle, who is of course a great and cycle, who is of course a great and famous practitioner of identity politics famous practitioner of identity politics famous practitioner of identity politics and wokeism, got elected to Congress on and wokeism, got elected to Congress on and wokeism, got elected to Congress on it. In fact, she was out there the other it. In fact, she was out there the other it. In fact, she was out there the other day kind of mildly denouncing it, day kind of mildly denouncing it, day kind of mildly denouncing it, saying, "That was kind of silly."

saying, "That was kind of silly." saying, "That was kind of silly." In the same way that people who screamed In the same way that people who screamed In the same way that people who screamed at you for not taking the COVID vac at you for not taking the COVID vac at you for not taking the COVID vac willing to say, "Yeah, we kind of went a willing to say, "Yeah, we kind of went a willing to say, "Yeah, we kind of went a little overboard, a little over, got a little overboard, a little over, got a little overboard, a little over, got a little crazy, caught up in the moment." little crazy, caught up in the moment." little crazy, caught up in the moment." And that's their way of acknowledging And that's their way of acknowledging And that's their way of acknowledging that their past behavior was that their past behavior was that their past behavior was reprehensible to some extent, but also reprehensible to some extent, but also reprehensible to some extent, but also their way of avoiding any penalty for their way of avoiding any penalty for their way of avoiding any penalty for what they did by half admitting that what they did by half admitting that what they did by half admitting that what they did is wrong. And they do this what they did is wrong. And they do this what they did is wrong. And they do this because they don't really have an because they don't really have an because they don't really have an option. I mean, nobody would defend the option. I mean, nobody would defend the option. I mean, nobody would defend the federal government's response to CO at federal government's response to CO at federal government's response to CO at this point. And nobody, no sane person this point. And nobody, no sane person this point. And nobody, no sane person would defend wokeism circa 2022 at this would defend wokeism circa 2022 at this would defend wokeism circa 2022 at this point because it's just so obviously point because it's just so obviously point because it's just so obviously awful and absurd and childish and cruel awful and absurd and childish and cruel awful and absurd and childish and cruel and it hurt a lot of people. So the and it hurt a lot of people. So the and it hurt a lot of people. So the point is if we're at a place where even point is if we're at a place where even point is if we're at a place where even Alexandria Kaziocortez is admitting that Alexandria Kaziocortez is admitting that Alexandria Kaziocortez is admitting that wokeism wokeism wokeism is pretty stupid at best, I think we can is pretty stupid at best, I think we can is pretty stupid at best, I think we can say conclusively that everybody's say conclusively that everybody's say conclusively that everybody's against it. The problem, however, is against it. The problem, however, is against it. The problem, however, is that not everybody is against it. And that not everybody is against it. And that not everybody is against it. And this gets to the question of why it this gets to the question of why it this gets to the question of why it exists in the first place. It doesn't exists in the first place. It doesn't exists in the first place. It doesn't exist because it's a remedy to some exist because it's a remedy to some exist because it's a remedy to some obvious injustice because there was just obvious injustice because there was just obvious injustice because there was just so much racism in America. So much so much racism in America. So much so much racism in America. So much anti-semitism in America that someone anti-semitism in America that someone anti-semitism in America that someone had to act before people got hurt.

had to act before people got hurt. had to act before people got hurt. That's just not true. There of course is That's just not true. There of course is That's just not true. There of course is racism and anti-semitism and all, you racism and anti-semitism and all, you racism and anti-semitism and all, you know, all kinds of bad attitudes and know, all kinds of bad attitudes and know, all kinds of bad attitudes and hatreds and and all of that, but that's hatreds and and all of that, but that's hatreds and and all of that, but that's not what these movements are about. not what these movements are about. not what these movements are about. Every single one of them is an effort by Every single one of them is an effort by Every single one of them is an effort by the people in charge to protect their the people in charge to protect their the people in charge to protect their own power, obviously. And that's just own power, obviously. And that's just own power, obviously. And that's just always true no matter who's in charge. always true no matter who's in charge. always true no matter who's in charge. And so, every group that's in charge And so, every group that's in charge And so, every group that's in charge faces the temptation to dive head first faces the temptation to dive head first faces the temptation to dive head first into identity politics, which by the way into identity politics, which by the way into identity politics, which by the way has the ancillary effect of dividing the has the ancillary effect of dividing the has the ancillary effect of dividing the country to the point where you can country to the point where you can country to the point where you can dominate the country, fight amongst dominate the country, fight amongst dominate the country, fight amongst yourselves, but we sell you meme coins yourselves, but we sell you meme coins yourselves, but we sell you meme coins or invade Iran or whatever. So, there's or invade Iran or whatever. So, there's or invade Iran or whatever. So, there's that. But it's also just kind of a a that. But it's also just kind of a a that. But it's also just kind of a a classic move classic move classic move employed by the powerful against employed by the powerful against employed by the powerful against everybody else. And so Charlie Cook everybody else. And so Charlie Cook everybody else. And so Charlie Cook understood this. He understood that when understood this. He understood that when understood this. He understood that when he criticized wokeism or attacks on he criticized wokeism or attacks on he criticized wokeism or attacks on speech or identity politics, he wasn't speech or identity politics, he wasn't speech or identity politics, he wasn't simply speaking to the people who were simply speaking to the people who were simply speaking to the people who were then in charge and we check that that then in charge and we check that that then in charge and we check that that clip you saw was from 2021 clip you saw was from 2021 clip you saw was from 2021 during the early Biden administration.

during the early Biden administration. during the early Biden administration. Democrats were in charge. He wasn't just Democrats were in charge. He wasn't just Democrats were in charge. He wasn't just criticizing them because he knew that in criticizing them because he knew that in criticizing them because he knew that in his own party, which was the Republican his own party, which was the Republican his own party, which was the Republican party, there were people who, if they party, there were people who, if they party, there were people who, if they ever got power, would immediately ever got power, would immediately ever got power, would immediately embrace exactly the same worldview and embrace exactly the same worldview and embrace exactly the same worldview and employ exactly the same tactics against employ exactly the same tactics against employ exactly the same tactics against the entire country. He knew those people the entire country. He knew those people the entire country. He knew those people existed because even then they existed. existed because even then they existed. existed because even then they existed. And now, of course, they dominate And now, of course, they dominate And now, of course, they dominate completely the Republican party. completely the Republican party. completely the Republican party. And we could spend hours going through And we could spend hours going through And we could spend hours going through the irony and pulling the clips of the irony and pulling the clips of the irony and pulling the clips of Republicans denouncing cancel culture Republicans denouncing cancel culture Republicans denouncing cancel culture and then a year later appearing on Fox and then a year later appearing on Fox and then a year later appearing on Fox News to champion cancel culture. News to champion cancel culture. News to champion cancel culture. Literally the cancellation of people Literally the cancellation of people Literally the cancellation of people whose opinions they don't like. But whose opinions they don't like. But whose opinions they don't like. But we're not going to do that because it's we're not going to do that because it's we're not going to do that because it's just too easy and too depressing. But just too easy and too depressing. But just too easy and too depressing. But instead, we just want to show you an instead, we just want to show you an instead, we just want to show you an example of what Charlie Kirk feared. And example of what Charlie Kirk feared. And example of what Charlie Kirk feared. And we're not guessing about this. Lots of we're not guessing about this. Lots of we're not guessing about this. Lots of people jump up and down about the legacy people jump up and down about the legacy people jump up and down about the legacy of Charlie Kirk and try and grab it for of Charlie Kirk and try and grab it for of Charlie Kirk and try and grab it for their own. We are totally confident when their own. We are totally confident when their own. We are totally confident when we say that Charlie Kirk then and were we say that Charlie Kirk then and were we say that Charlie Kirk then and were he still with us now would oppose what he still with us now would oppose what he still with us now would oppose what you're about to see. So this is a you're about to see. So this is a you're about to see. So this is a Republican congressman from New York Republican congressman from New York Republican congressman from New York called Mike Lawler and he's explaining called Mike Lawler and he's explaining called Mike Lawler and he's explaining his views on free speech. Watch. We have his views on free speech. Watch. We have his views on free speech. Watch. We have seen a rapid rise in anti-semitism on seen a rapid rise in anti-semitism on seen a rapid rise in anti-semitism on these college campuses. Uh and we need these college campuses. Uh and we need these college campuses. Uh and we need to crack down on it. This is not a free to crack down on it. This is not a free to crack down on it. This is not a free speech issue. This is hate speech.

speech issue. This is hate speech. speech issue. This is hate speech. Chanting from the river to the sea was Chanting from the river to the sea was Chanting from the river to the sea was not aspirational. It was absolutely vile not aspirational. It was absolutely vile not aspirational. It was absolutely vile uh and intended uh to undermine Israel uh and intended uh to undermine Israel uh and intended uh to undermine Israel uh and and frankly call for its uh and and frankly call for its uh and and frankly call for its extermination and that cannot be extermination and that cannot be extermination and that cannot be tolerated anywhere in this country. tolerated anywhere in this country. tolerated anywhere in this country. >> Oh, it cannot be tolerated. It's not >> Oh, it cannot be tolerated. It's not >> Oh, it cannot be tolerated. It's not free speech to have that opinion. It's free speech to have that opinion. It's free speech to have that opinion. It's hate speech. It absolutely can't be hate speech. It absolutely can't be hate speech. It absolutely can't be tolerated. Now, that man, Mike Lawler, tolerated. Now, that man, Mike Lawler, tolerated. Now, that man, Mike Lawler, who again is a Republican member of who again is a Republican member of who again is a Republican member of Congress, not one of the brighter ones, Congress, not one of the brighter ones, Congress, not one of the brighter ones, but still apparently a member in good but still apparently a member in good but still apparently a member in good standing of the Republican party, standing of the Republican party, standing of the Republican party, serving in the House of Representatives, serving in the House of Representatives, serving in the House of Representatives, a little over a year after that, a little over a year after that, a little over a year after that, sponsored legislation with his sponsored legislation with his sponsored legislation with his Democratic colleague Josh Godheimer to Democratic colleague Josh Godheimer to Democratic colleague Josh Godheimer to ban criticisms of the government of ban criticisms of the government of ban criticisms of the government of Israel to encode in federal law the IH Israel to encode in federal law the IH Israel to encode in federal law the IH definition of anti-semitism, which is definition of anti-semitism, which is definition of anti-semitism, which is well, seven out of 11 criteria are well, seven out of 11 criteria are well, seven out of 11 criteria are criticisms of the state of Israel, the criticisms of the state of Israel, the criticisms of the state of Israel, the government of Israel and its behavior government of Israel and its behavior government of Israel and its behavior would be classified under federal law.

would be classified under federal law. would be classified under federal law. Anti-semitism and therefore a hate Anti-semitism and therefore a hate Anti-semitism and therefore a hate crime. It would be illegal, for example, crime. It would be illegal, for example, crime. It would be illegal, for example, under the definition that he tried to under the definition that he tried to under the definition that he tried to encode in federal law to describe what encode in federal law to describe what encode in federal law to describe what the Israelis are doing in Gaza as a the Israelis are doing in Gaza as a the Israelis are doing in Gaza as a genocide. genocide. genocide. But what if it is a genocide? What if it But what if it is a genocide? What if it But what if it is a genocide? What if it meets every definition of genocide? What meets every definition of genocide? What meets every definition of genocide? What if murdering 20,000 children could be if murdering 20,000 children could be if murdering 20,000 children could be proven, which it already has been, would proven, which it already has been, would proven, which it already has been, would it be okay to say that? No. Not under it be okay to say that? No. Not under it be okay to say that? No. Not under that law, which thankfully did not pass. that law, which thankfully did not pass. that law, which thankfully did not pass. But it will someday if this trajectory But it will someday if this trajectory But it will someday if this trajectory continues. So here you have a Republican continues. So here you have a Republican continues. So here you have a Republican who no doubt would describe himself as a who no doubt would describe himself as a who no doubt would describe himself as a conservative, a constitutional conservative, a constitutional conservative, a constitutional conservative trying to ban criticism of conservative trying to ban criticism of conservative trying to ban criticism of a foreign country. Said it cannot be a foreign country. Said it cannot be a foreign country. Said it cannot be tolerated. tolerated. tolerated. And what's interesting is why. So, this And what's interesting is why. So, this And what's interesting is why. So, this is not a blanket ban that Mike Lawler is is not a blanket ban that Mike Lawler is is not a blanket ban that Mike Lawler is trying to get into federal law where you trying to get into federal law where you trying to get into federal law where you can't criticize foreign countries. There can't criticize foreign countries. There can't criticize foreign countries. There are plenty of foreign countries Mike are plenty of foreign countries Mike are plenty of foreign countries Mike Lawler would like you to criticize. In Lawler would like you to criticize. In Lawler would like you to criticize. In fact, there are countries Mike Lawler's fact, there are countries Mike Lawler's fact, there are countries Mike Lawler's destruction has called for himself. destruction has called for himself. destruction has called for himself. Russia, for example, or Iran, Russia, for example, or Iran, Russia, for example, or Iran, countries that his donors don't like.

countries that his donors don't like. countries that his donors don't like. So, what you're watching here once again So, what you're watching here once again So, what you're watching here once again is the most powerful people in the is the most powerful people in the is the most powerful people in the society, Mike Lawler's donors. And of society, Mike Lawler's donors. And of society, Mike Lawler's donors. And of course, he'll repeat whatever they ask course, he'll repeat whatever they ask course, he'll repeat whatever they ask him to repeat. Trying to encode their him to repeat. Trying to encode their him to repeat. Trying to encode their preferences and their advantages in our preferences and their advantages in our preferences and their advantages in our legal code. In other words, you take legal code. In other words, you take legal code. In other words, you take this 250-year-old country and you take this 250-year-old country and you take this 250-year-old country and you take the machinery of the country and you use the machinery of the country and you use the machinery of the country and you use it to your own benefit to protect you it to your own benefit to protect you it to your own benefit to protect you and to make you richer. That's exactly and to make you richer. That's exactly and to make you richer. That's exactly what you're seeing here. There's no what you're seeing here. There's no what you're seeing here. There's no principle at all involved in this. In principle at all involved in this. In principle at all involved in this. In this, Mike Lawler is saying it should this, Mike Lawler is saying it should this, Mike Lawler is saying it should not be allowed to criticize Israel. But not be allowed to criticize Israel. But not be allowed to criticize Israel. But you can criticize Russia again. Why? you can criticize Russia again. Why? you can criticize Russia again. Why? Well, because Mike Lawler's donors love Well, because Mike Lawler's donors love Well, because Mike Lawler's donors love Israel and they hate Russia. Therefore, Israel and they hate Russia. Therefore, Israel and they hate Russia. Therefore, you can criticize the country they hate, you can criticize the country they hate, you can criticize the country they hate, but you're not allowed to criticize the but you're not allowed to criticize the but you're not allowed to criticize the country they love. Okay? So, that's just country they love. Okay? So, that's just country they love. Okay? So, that's just like a total collapse of the rule of like a total collapse of the rule of like a total collapse of the rule of law, of decency, law, of decency, law, of decency, and of the thing that you really have to and of the thing that you really have to and of the thing that you really have to have in order to have a real country.

have in order to have a real country. have in order to have a real country. which is a love of the truth. What's which is a love of the truth. What's which is a love of the truth. What's true, what's objectively true, provably true, what's objectively true, provably true, what's objectively true, provably true, has to be has to remain at the true, has to be has to remain at the true, has to be has to remain at the center of the project. Has to remain at center of the project. Has to remain at center of the project. Has to remain at the center of your legal code. You can't the center of your legal code. You can't the center of your legal code. You can't convict people of a crime unless you can convict people of a crime unless you can convict people of a crime unless you can prove that they did it. You have to know prove that they did it. You have to know prove that they did it. You have to know the truth before you can punish someone. the truth before you can punish someone. the truth before you can punish someone. Therefore, if somebody says something Therefore, if somebody says something Therefore, if somebody says something true, true, true, you have to allow them to say it. you have to allow them to say it. you have to allow them to say it. Period. Whether you like it or not. If Period. Whether you like it or not. If Period. Whether you like it or not. If someone walks up to you and says, someone walks up to you and says, someone walks up to you and says, "You've gained 30 lbs." And you have, "You've gained 30 lbs." And you have, "You've gained 30 lbs." And you have, that might be a rude thing to say. You that might be a rude thing to say. You that might be a rude thing to say. You might hate to hear it, but you cannot might hate to hear it, but you cannot might hate to hear it, but you cannot punish someone for telling the truth, punish someone for telling the truth, punish someone for telling the truth, even if it stings, even if it stings, even if it stings, but they're trying. but they're trying. but they're trying. They're trying. And by they, we mean They're trying. And by they, we mean They're trying. And by they, we mean everybody in charge. And at this point, everybody in charge. And at this point, everybody in charge. And at this point, that means Republicans. that means Republicans. that means Republicans. But of course, it's hard to get But of course, it's hard to get But of course, it's hard to get censorship censorship censorship through the Congress. through the Congress. through the Congress. Because we do have this thing called the Because we do have this thing called the Because we do have this thing called the bill of rights and the first right bill of rights and the first right bill of rights and the first right enumerated in it. The very first is the enumerated in it. The very first is the enumerated in it. The very first is the right to say what you think is true. The right to say what you think is true. The right to say what you think is true. The first amendment protects your right to first amendment protects your right to first amendment protects your right to say what you think is true and prevents say what you think is true and prevents say what you think is true and prevents the government from constraining that the government from constraining that the government from constraining that right in any way. And this has been right in any way. And this has been right in any way. And this has been debated for 200 years. And so we know debated for 200 years. And so we know debated for 200 years. And so we know what the parameters are and they're very what the parameters are and they're very what the parameters are and they're very very wide. So it's going to be pretty very wide. So it's going to be pretty very wide. So it's going to be pretty hard for any sitting member of Congress hard for any sitting member of Congress hard for any sitting member of Congress to vote for a Mike Lawler bill. So they to vote for a Mike Lawler bill. So they to vote for a Mike Lawler bill. So they have to find another way to prevent you have to find another way to prevent you have to find another way to prevent you from telling obvious truths that they

from telling obvious truths that they from telling obvious truths that they find inconvenient or that their donors find inconvenient or that their donors find inconvenient or that their donors don't care for. So how are they going to don't care for. So how are they going to don't care for. So how are they going to do that? Well, through threats of do that? Well, through threats of do that? Well, through threats of violence, of course. It always comes to violence, of course. It always comes to violence, of course. It always comes to that. Through threats of violence, that. Through threats of violence, that. Through threats of violence, through intimidation, through making you through intimidation, through making you through intimidation, through making you afraid to say what you think is true. afraid to say what you think is true. afraid to say what you think is true. And so it's probably not surprising that And so it's probably not surprising that And so it's probably not surprising that the clip we're about to show you in just the clip we're about to show you in just the clip we're about to show you in just a moment comes from Nikki Haley. She's a moment comes from Nikki Haley. She's a moment comes from Nikki Haley. She's the former governor of South Carolina the former governor of South Carolina the former governor of South Carolina and has some appealing qualities for and has some appealing qualities for and has some appealing qualities for sure. Not everything about Nikki Haley sure. Not everything about Nikki Haley sure. Not everything about Nikki Haley is bad, but one thing about Nikki Haley is bad, but one thing about Nikki Haley is bad, but one thing about Nikki Haley is notable, which is her very high is notable, which is her very high is notable, which is her very high tolerance for violence. So Nikki Haley tolerance for violence. So Nikki Haley tolerance for violence. So Nikki Haley was one of the very few Republican was one of the very few Republican was one of the very few Republican politicians who in the opening hours of politicians who in the opening hours of politicians who in the opening hours of the George Floyd riots when the city of the George Floyd riots when the city of the George Floyd riots when the city of Minneapolis was on fire and a police Minneapolis was on fire and a police Minneapolis was on fire and a police station was burning to the ground, cars station was burning to the ground, cars station was burning to the ground, cars were flipped over, people were being were flipped over, people were being were flipped over, people were being shot to death, women were being raped. shot to death, women were being raped. shot to death, women were being raped. Clearly things were getting out of Clearly things were getting out of Clearly things were getting out of control. This was mob violence, which is control. This was mob violence, which is control. This was mob violence, which is the scariest thing. And anyone who's the scariest thing. And anyone who's the scariest thing. And anyone who's ever seen it firsthand can confirm that. ever seen it firsthand can confirm that. ever seen it firsthand can confirm that. As she watched that on television, Nikki As she watched that on television, Nikki As she watched that on television, Nikki Haley sent out a tweet saying in effect, Haley sent out a tweet saying in effect, Haley sent out a tweet saying in effect, "You go mobs.

"You go mobs. "You go mobs. America needs this. The cleansing fire America needs this. The cleansing fire America needs this. The cleansing fire of rioting to burn the racism from our of rioting to burn the racism from our of rioting to burn the racism from our souls." We're dressing it up in a more souls." We're dressing it up in a more souls." We're dressing it up in a more poetic way, but you can pull up the poetic way, but you can pull up the poetic way, but you can pull up the tweet because it's still on the tweet because it's still on the tweet because it's still on the internet. Nikki Haley saw the internet. Nikki Haley saw the internet. Nikki Haley saw the destruction of an American city by destruction of an American city by destruction of an American city by violence and approved of it. violence and approved of it. violence and approved of it. So someone like that who was willing to So someone like that who was willing to So someone like that who was willing to tolerate the killing of people who did tolerate the killing of people who did tolerate the killing of people who did nothing wrong for the larger good of nothing wrong for the larger good of nothing wrong for the larger good of purging racism from the American soul purging racism from the American soul purging racism from the American soul probably doesn't have a very difficult probably doesn't have a very difficult probably doesn't have a very difficult time saying something like this. watch. time saying something like this. watch. time saying something like this. watch. >> When I get into office, the first thing >> When I get into office, the first thing >> When I get into office, the first thing we have to do, social media accounts, we have to do, social media accounts, we have to do, social media accounts, social media companies, they have to social media companies, they have to social media companies, they have to show America their algorithms. Let us show America their algorithms. Let us show America their algorithms. Let us see why they're pushing what they're see why they're pushing what they're see why they're pushing what they're pushing. The second thing is every pushing. The second thing is every pushing. The second thing is every person on social media should be person on social media should be person on social media should be verified by their name. That's first of verified by their name. That's first of verified by their name. That's first of all, it's a national security threat. all, it's a national security threat. all, it's a national security threat. When you do that, all of a sudden, When you do that, all of a sudden, When you do that, all of a sudden, people have to stand by what they say. people have to stand by what they say. people have to stand by what they say. And it gets rid of the Russian bots, the And it gets rid of the Russian bots, the And it gets rid of the Russian bots, the Iranian bots, and the Chinese bots. And Iranian bots, and the Chinese bots. And Iranian bots, and the Chinese bots. And then you're gonna get some civility when then you're gonna get some civility when then you're gonna get some civility when people know their name is next to what people know their name is next to what people know their name is next to what they say. [laughter] they say. [laughter] they say. [laughter] >> It's a it's a national security threat >> It's a it's a national security threat >> It's a it's a national security threat that you have opinions that Nikki that you have opinions that Nikki that you have opinions that Nikki Haley's donors don't like because the Haley's donors don't like because the Haley's donors don't like because the problem is Russian bots or problem is Russian bots or problem is Russian bots or Iranian bots, North Korean bots. Bots Iranian bots, North Korean bots. Bots Iranian bots, North Korean bots. Bots her donors don't like. The problem is her donors don't like. The problem is her donors don't like. The problem is not bots. Of course, Nikki Haley's not bots. Of course, Nikki Haley's not bots. Of course, Nikki Haley's totally in favor of bots if they're say totally in favor of bots if they're say totally in favor of bots if they're say Israeli bots which dominate social media Israeli bots which dominate social media Israeli bots which dominate social media at the moment. Haven't heard many at the moment. Haven't heard many at the moment. Haven't heard many complaints from Nikki Haley about that.

complaints from Nikki Haley about that. complaints from Nikki Haley about that. That's not a national security threat. That's not a national security threat. That's not a national security threat. The national security threat is that you The national security threat is that you The national security threat is that you might express something true [snorts] might express something true [snorts] might express something true [snorts] and we can't find you to hold you and we can't find you to hold you and we can't find you to hold you accountable for that. So this kind of accountable for that. So this kind of accountable for that. So this kind of thinking can get you to I don't know thinking can get you to I don't know thinking can get you to I don't know North Korea pretty quick. In fact, North Korea pretty quick. In fact, North Korea pretty quick. In fact, probably unlikely that North Korean probably unlikely that North Korean probably unlikely that North Korean politicians have the balls to say politicians have the balls to say politicians have the balls to say something that open in public. something that open in public. something that open in public. Because if you have no right to express Because if you have no right to express Because if you have no right to express your view anonymously online, why do you your view anonymously online, why do you your view anonymously online, why do you have a right to turn to your wife in bed have a right to turn to your wife in bed have a right to turn to your wife in bed with the shades closed and say something with the shades closed and say something with the shades closed and say something naughty about Israel? That could be a naughty about Israel? That could be a naughty about Israel? That could be a national security threat, too. Anytime national security threat, too. Anytime national security threat, too. Anytime people say something out loud that Nikki people say something out loud that Nikki people say something out loud that Nikki Haley doesn't like, it's a national Haley doesn't like, it's a national Haley doesn't like, it's a national security threat, and we have to find out security threat, and we have to find out security threat, and we have to find out who's saying it. Hm. So, as a practical who's saying it. Hm. So, as a practical who's saying it. Hm. So, as a practical matter, why would it be so important for matter, why would it be so important for matter, why would it be so important for Nikki Haley to strip the shield of Nikki Haley to strip the shield of Nikki Haley to strip the shield of anonymity from people on the internet? anonymity from people on the internet? anonymity from people on the internet? Why do we have to know who you are if Why do we have to know who you are if Why do we have to know who you are if you criticize Israel? you criticize Israel? you criticize Israel? That's an interesting question. And the That's an interesting question. And the That's an interesting question. And the deeper question is, why would people deeper question is, why would people deeper question is, why would people fear saying what they think about Israel fear saying what they think about Israel fear saying what they think about Israel to the point where they wouldn't say it to the point where they wouldn't say it to the point where they wouldn't say it under their own name? That's a question under their own name? That's a question under their own name? That's a question worth asking, too. Why are people so worth asking, too. Why are people so worth asking, too. Why are people so intimidated intimidated intimidated by Nikki Haley's donors that they don't by Nikki Haley's donors that they don't by Nikki Haley's donors that they don't want to express their views openly?

want to express their views openly? want to express their views openly? Don't you want to live in a country Don't you want to live in a country Don't you want to live in a country where people just say what they think, where people just say what they think, where people just say what they think, where they're not afraid, or would you where they're not afraid, or would you where they're not afraid, or would you rather live in a c country where people rather live in a c country where people rather live in a c country where people cower before the threats of figures like cower before the threats of figures like cower before the threats of figures like Nikki Haley and her national security Nikki Haley and her national security Nikki Haley and her national security concerns concerns concerns and they just won't say what they think and they just won't say what they think and they just won't say what they think because they know they could be hurt for because they know they could be hurt for because they know they could be hurt for doing it? Well, Nikki Haley clearly doing it? Well, Nikki Haley clearly doing it? Well, Nikki Haley clearly prefers the latter. But by stripping the prefers the latter. But by stripping the prefers the latter. But by stripping the anonymity away from people online, it anonymity away from people online, it anonymity away from people online, it would allow, I don't know, some would allow, I don't know, some would allow, I don't know, some organized nonprofit group to hunt down organized nonprofit group to hunt down organized nonprofit group to hunt down anyone they find online expressing anyone they find online expressing anyone they find online expressing unimproved thoughts about Israel and unimproved thoughts about Israel and unimproved thoughts about Israel and hurt them. Really hurt them. So, this hurt them. Really hurt them. So, this hurt them. Really hurt them. So, this clip is from the woman um who changed clip is from the woman um who changed clip is from the woman um who changed her name, by the way, speaking of her name, by the way, speaking of her name, by the way, speaking of anonymity. She had some kind of Eastern anonymity. She had some kind of Eastern anonymity. She had some kind of Eastern European name. Now, she has a kind of European name. Now, she has a kind of European name. Now, she has a kind of strange one- syllable last name. Anyway, strange one- syllable last name. Anyway, strange one- syllable last name. Anyway, not using her real name. In any case, not using her real name. In any case, not using her real name. In any case, here is the woman who runs a group here is the woman who runs a group here is the woman who runs a group called Stop Anti-Semitism, which is a called Stop Anti-Semitism, which is a called Stop Anti-Semitism, which is a digital vigilante group. And that's not digital vigilante group. And that's not digital vigilante group. And that's not an overstatement, as you're about to an overstatement, as you're about to an overstatement, as you're about to see, but she's describing what her group see, but she's describing what her group see, but she's describing what her group does to people who criticize the Israeli does to people who criticize the Israeli does to people who criticize the Israeli government. Watch this.

government. Watch this. government. Watch this. >> We have featured more than 1,000 >> We have featured more than 1,000 >> We have featured more than 1,000 anti-semites on our platforms. 1,000. anti-semites on our platforms. 1,000. anti-semites on our platforms. 1,000. not theorized about them, not quietly not theorized about them, not quietly not theorized about them, not quietly documented them, feature them publicly, documented them, feature them publicly, documented them, feature them publicly, clearly, and with evidence. The results clearly, and with evidence. The results clearly, and with evidence. The results speak for themselves. speak for themselves. speak for themselves. Approximately 400 of these Jew haters Approximately 400 of these Jew haters Approximately 400 of these Jew haters have faced real consequences, including have faced real consequences, including have faced real consequences, including firings, suspensions, and expulsions. firings, suspensions, and expulsions. firings, suspensions, and expulsions. If you target Jewish students, your If you target Jewish students, your If you target Jewish students, your actions will not disappear into the actions will not disappear into the actions will not disappear into the darkness. We will shine a light on you darkness. We will shine a light on you darkness. We will shine a light on you that thanks to Google and SEO will that thanks to Google and SEO will that thanks to Google and SEO will follow you for the rest of your life. follow you for the rest of your life. follow you for the rest of your life. When you look for a job, when you look When you look for a job, when you look When you look for a job, when you look for a spouse, when you look for a nanny, for a spouse, when you look for a nanny, for a spouse, when you look for a nanny, when you look for anything, our work when you look for anything, our work when you look for anything, our work will always be documented. Again, thanks will always be documented. Again, thanks will always be documented. Again, thanks to Google and SEO. to Google and SEO. to Google and SEO. >> Huh? When you look for a job, when you >> Huh? When you look for a job, when you >> Huh? When you look for a job, when you look for a spouse, really? So what are look for a spouse, really? So what are look for a spouse, really? So what are we talking about here when she says when we talking about here when she says when we talking about here when she says when you target Jewish students, when you you target Jewish students, when you you target Jewish students, when you hate Jews, well of course anyone who hate Jews, well of course anyone who hate Jews, well of course anyone who makes physical threats against anybody, makes physical threats against anybody, makes physical threats against anybody, Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, doesn't matter. That person has doesn't matter. That person has doesn't matter. That person has committed a crime and we have well committed a crime and we have well committed a crime and we have well layers of law enforcement agencies to layers of law enforcement agencies to layers of law enforcement agencies to deal with that. And and they do and they deal with that. And and they do and they deal with that. And and they do and they should. But that's not what she's should. But that's not what she's should. But that's not what she's talking about. She's talking about the talking about. She's talking about the talking about. She's talking about the IH, IH, IH, International Holocaust Remembrance International Holocaust Remembrance International Holocaust Remembrance Association, definition of

Association, definition of Association, definition of anti-semitism. And as noted, there are anti-semitism. And as noted, there are anti-semitism. And as noted, there are 11 examples of anti-semitism. And seven 11 examples of anti-semitism. And seven 11 examples of anti-semitism. And seven are criticism of the Israeli government, are criticism of the Israeli government, are criticism of the Israeli government, which to remind you is a foreign which to remind you is a foreign which to remind you is a foreign government. It's not the US government. government. It's not the US government. government. It's not the US government. By the way, criticism, including in By the way, criticism, including in By the way, criticism, including in tempmperate criticism of the US tempmperate criticism of the US tempmperate criticism of the US government, is always and everywhere government, is always and everywhere government, is always and everywhere allowed and in fact encouraged in our allowed and in fact encouraged in our allowed and in fact encouraged in our schools by our government officials. You schools by our government officials. You schools by our government officials. You can accuse the US government, our can accuse the US government, our can accuse the US government, our government, the one that your ancestors government, the one that your ancestors government, the one that your ancestors died for in any way that you like. You died for in any way that you like. You died for in any way that you like. You can accuse them of sending crack into can accuse them of sending crack into can accuse them of sending crack into black neighborhoods. And by the way, black neighborhoods. And by the way, black neighborhoods. And by the way, maybe they did. Who knows? We don't maybe they did. Who knows? We don't maybe they did. Who knows? We don't really know. But we know that it's really know. But we know that it's really know. But we know that it's perfectly fine to speculate about that. perfectly fine to speculate about that. perfectly fine to speculate about that. We know that it's hate to suggest the We know that it's hate to suggest the We know that it's hate to suggest the Israeli government might have been Israeli government might have been Israeli government might have been involved in the assassination of our involved in the assassination of our involved in the assassination of our president, John F. Kennedy, in 1963, president, John F. Kennedy, in 1963, president, John F. Kennedy, in 1963, though there's evidence they were. But though there's evidence they were. But though there's evidence they were. But it's totally within bounds to suggest it's totally within bounds to suggest it's totally within bounds to suggest our CIA was also involved. That's our CIA was also involved. That's our CIA was also involved. That's totally fine. And it looks like they totally fine. And it looks like they totally fine. And it looks like they were involved, by the way, in that were involved, by the way, in that were involved, by the way, in that assassination. And that's fine. And assassination. And that's fine. And assassination. And that's fine. And there's no penalty for acknowledging there's no penalty for acknowledging there's no penalty for acknowledging that. But to suggest that they might that. But to suggest that they might that. But to suggest that they might have worked in concert with the Israeli have worked in concert with the Israeli have worked in concert with the Israeli government, well, that will open you up government, well, that will open you up government, well, that will open you up to online vigilanteism like that where to online vigilanteism like that where to online vigilanteism like that where you can't have a job, you can't have a you can't have a job, you can't have a you can't have a job, you can't have a spouse, can you even live here? Hard to spouse, can you even live here? Hard to spouse, can you even live here? Hard to know.

know. know. So when Nikki Haley calls for stripping So when Nikki Haley calls for stripping So when Nikki Haley calls for stripping the shield of anonymity from people who the shield of anonymity from people who the shield of anonymity from people who dare to criticize her donor's favorite dare to criticize her donor's favorite dare to criticize her donor's favorite country, the reason she's doing it is so country, the reason she's doing it is so country, the reason she's doing it is so the woman you just saw on the screen can the woman you just saw on the screen can the woman you just saw on the screen can bat cleanup and round up the people bat cleanup and round up the people bat cleanup and round up the people foolish enough to say what they really foolish enough to say what they really foolish enough to say what they really think and hurt them. Not just in the think and hurt them. Not just in the think and hurt them. Not just in the short or medium term, but for life. No short or medium term, but for life. No short or medium term, but for life. No spouse for you, no job for you. Maybe spouse for you, no job for you. Maybe spouse for you, no job for you. Maybe you starve to death. That's okay because you starve to death. That's okay because you starve to death. That's okay because you're a hater. And of course, the great you're a hater. And of course, the great you're a hater. And of course, the great overarching irony of all of this is overarching irony of all of this is overarching irony of all of this is who's the hater? who's the hater? who's the hater? So if you go online and say, "I think So if you go online and say, "I think So if you go online and say, "I think what the Israeli government is doing to what the Israeli government is doing to what the Israeli government is doing to children in Gaza is immoral because I'm children in Gaza is immoral because I'm children in Gaza is immoral because I'm not for killing children," not for killing children," not for killing children," you get screamed at and called a hater you get screamed at and called a hater you get screamed at and called a hater by someone who then tells you you can by someone who then tells you you can by someone who then tells you you can never get married or have a job again. never get married or have a job again. never get married or have a job again. Who's the hater exactly? Of course. But Who's the hater exactly? Of course. But Who's the hater exactly? Of course. But the problem is because no one in the problem is because no one in the problem is because no one in authority has pushed back against any of authority has pushed back against any of authority has pushed back against any of this and because the temperature has this and because the temperature has this and because the temperature has risen to a point that sincerely is risen to a point that sincerely is risen to a point that sincerely is dangerous. It's accelerated.

dangerous. It's accelerated. dangerous. It's accelerated. And so there's no doubt trying to be And so there's no doubt trying to be And so there's no doubt trying to be charitable about it that the woman you charitable about it that the woman you charitable about it that the woman you just saw from stop anti-semitism just saw from stop anti-semitism just saw from stop anti-semitism believes that she's doing a virtuous believes that she's doing a virtuous believes that she's doing a virtuous thing. She believes she is saving Jewish thing. She believes she is saving Jewish thing. She believes she is saving Jewish people from Nazis. Now of course her people from Nazis. Now of course her people from Nazis. Now of course her definition is deranged. Most people who definition is deranged. Most people who definition is deranged. Most people who were against killing children are also were against killing children are also were against killing children are also anti-Nazi by definition. Of course, anti-Nazi by definition. Of course, anti-Nazi by definition. Of course, violence against innocents was one of violence against innocents was one of violence against innocents was one of the signature crimes of the Nazi regime. the signature crimes of the Nazi regime. the signature crimes of the Nazi regime. That's why we're against the Nazis in That's why we're against the Nazis in That's why we're against the Nazis in the first place. We're not mad about the first place. We're not mad about the first place. We're not mad about their economic policy. Most of us don't their economic policy. Most of us don't their economic policy. Most of us don't even know what it was. We're mad because even know what it was. We're mad because even know what it was. We're mad because they hurt innocent people. And that's they hurt innocent people. And that's they hurt innocent people. And that's always and everywhere immoral. And so always and everywhere immoral. And so always and everywhere immoral. And so there's probably a huge overlap between there's probably a huge overlap between there's probably a huge overlap between people who are disgusted by what the people who are disgusted by what the people who are disgusted by what the Israeli government is doing in the Israeli government is doing in the Israeli government is doing in the territories it occupies and people who territories it occupies and people who territories it occupies and people who are also disgusted by what the Nazi are also disgusted by what the Nazi are also disgusted by what the Nazi regime did in the territories it regime did in the territories it regime did in the territories it occupied. Probably almost 100% overlap occupied. Probably almost 100% overlap occupied. Probably almost 100% overlap between those two groups. between those two groups. between those two groups. But because no one will say that out But because no one will say that out But because no one will say that out loud and because extremists have been loud and because extremists have been loud and because extremists have been allowed to hijack the conversation and allowed to hijack the conversation and allowed to hijack the conversation and because there isn't actually free speech because there isn't actually free speech because there isn't actually free speech on this topic, the free speech that on this topic, the free speech that on this topic, the free speech that Charlie Kirk so assiduously called for.

Charlie Kirk so assiduously called for. Charlie Kirk so assiduously called for. The other side of the argument which is The other side of the argument which is The other side of the argument which is moderate and temperate [clears throat] moderate and temperate [clears throat] moderate and temperate [clears throat] and fact-based and not hateful, which is and fact-based and not hateful, which is and fact-based and not hateful, which is universal rather than sectarian, universal rather than sectarian, universal rather than sectarian, which rejects identity politics in favor which rejects identity politics in favor which rejects identity politics in favor of universally applicable standards for of universally applicable standards for of universally applicable standards for every human being. That side of the every human being. That side of the every human being. That side of the argument rarely gets an airring argument rarely gets an airring argument rarely gets an airring if ever. if ever. if ever. And so the net result of this is to with And so the net result of this is to with And so the net result of this is to with every passing day make people crazier, every passing day make people crazier, every passing day make people crazier, angrier, and less restrained. And if angrier, and less restrained. And if angrier, and less restrained. And if that pro process continues long enough, that pro process continues long enough, that pro process continues long enough, you wind up with Mark Levvin. you wind up with Mark Levvin. you wind up with Mark Levvin. Basically in the clip we're about to Basically in the clip we're about to Basically in the clip we're about to show you calling for crystal knocked. show you calling for crystal knocked. show you calling for crystal knocked. Watch. Watch. Watch. For six months, I've been fighting these For six months, I've been fighting these For six months, I've been fighting these bastards, bastards, bastards, whether it's Tucker Carlson or whether whether it's Tucker Carlson or whether whether it's Tucker Carlson or whether it's Nick Fuentes, and I've been looking it's Nick Fuentes, and I've been looking it's Nick Fuentes, and I've been looking over my shoulder looking for help. And over my shoulder looking for help. And over my shoulder looking for help. And you know what? I found you know what? I found you know what? I found nothing. nothing. nothing. Nothing.

Nothing. Nothing. We're here today to do something about We're here today to do something about We're here today to do something about this. this. this. What do you mean we don't cancel people? What do you mean we don't cancel people? What do you mean we don't cancel people? We cancelled David Duke. We cancelled David Duke. We cancelled David Duke. Donald Trump canceled David Duke. We Donald Trump canceled David Duke. We Donald Trump canceled David Duke. We canled Pap Buchanan. We canled the John canled Pap Buchanan. We canled the John canled Pap Buchanan. We canled the John Burch Society. We cancelled Joseph Soin. Burch Society. We cancelled Joseph Soin. Burch Society. We cancelled Joseph Soin. We canled pornography on TV. We cancel We canled pornography on TV. We cancel We canled pornography on TV. We cancel stuff all the damn time. Hitler admires, stuff all the damn time. Hitler admires, stuff all the damn time. Hitler admires, Stalin admires, Jew haters, American Stalin admires, Jew haters, American Stalin admires, Jew haters, American haters, Churchill haters. You're damn haters, Churchill haters. You're damn haters, Churchill haters. You're damn right we're going to cancel them and right we're going to cancel them and right we're going to cancel them and deplatform them. deplatform them. deplatform them. >> Whenever you hear that guy talk, you >> Whenever you hear that guy talk, you >> Whenever you hear that guy talk, you want to be serious because it does want to be serious because it does want to be serious because it does matter and it is important to explain matter and it is important to explain matter and it is important to explain what's wrong with what he said. But it's what's wrong with what he said. But it's what's wrong with what he said. But it's so disjointed and and illogical and so disjointed and and illogical and so disjointed and and illogical and there's always at least a line or two in there's always at least a line or two in there's always at least a line or two in there that doesn't make any sense at there that doesn't make any sense at there that doesn't make any sense at all. We canled pornography on TV. You all. We canled pornography on TV. You all. We canled pornography on TV. You know, I think you've promoted know, I think you've promoted know, I think you've promoted pornography on TV as far as I know. Um pornography on TV as far as I know. Um pornography on TV as far as I know. Um [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] Churchill haters. Just like throw it in Churchill haters. Just like throw it in Churchill haters. Just like throw it in there. Jew haters. Okay. Yeah, I'm I'm there. Jew haters. Okay. Yeah, I'm I'm there. Jew haters. Okay. Yeah, I'm I'm against Jew haters. Churchill haters.

against Jew haters. Churchill haters. against Jew haters. Churchill haters. You're not allowed to hate Churchill You're not allowed to hate Churchill You're not allowed to hate Churchill now. Was Was [laughter] he like some now. Was Was [laughter] he like some now. Was Was [laughter] he like some British prime minister who screwed up at British prime minister who screwed up at British prime minister who screwed up at Gallipoli? I think it's okay to dislike Gallipoli? I think it's okay to dislike Gallipoli? I think it's okay to dislike Churchill. No, I kind of Let me check my Churchill. No, I kind of Let me check my Churchill. No, I kind of Let me check my passport and see if there's fine print passport and see if there's fine print passport and see if there's fine print in there about having to pledge loyalty in there about having to pledge loyalty in there about having to pledge loyalty to Churchill. I don't recall that part to Churchill. I don't recall that part to Churchill. I don't recall that part of the American creed. Churchill haters. of the American creed. Churchill haters. of the American creed. Churchill haters. Where did that come from? Actually, we Where did that come from? Actually, we Where did that come from? Actually, we should think about it because if it's should think about it because if it's should think about it because if it's disqualifying disqualifying disqualifying to hate Churchill, to hate Churchill, to hate Churchill, maybe there's more to Churchill than maybe there's more to Churchill than maybe there's more to Churchill than we've been told. Why are they defending we've been told. Why are they defending we've been told. Why are they defending Churchill? H Now they've gotten Churchill? H Now they've gotten Churchill? H Now they've gotten pornography off TV. Yeah, Mark Leven's pornography off TV. Yeah, Mark Leven's pornography off TV. Yeah, Mark Leven's against pornography. against pornography. against pornography. Sorry for the sidetrack there. It's just Sorry for the sidetrack there. It's just Sorry for the sidetrack there. It's just impossible uh to parse a Mark Leavvin impossible uh to parse a Mark Leavvin impossible uh to parse a Mark Leavvin speech without winding up in a speech without winding up in a speech without winding up in a culde-sac. But to the center of what culde-sac. But to the center of what culde-sac. But to the center of what he's saying here, you have, so the he's saying here, you have, so the he's saying here, you have, so the speech you just saw was given November speech you just saw was given November speech you just saw was given November 1st, 2025. So that's almost exactly one 1st, 2025. So that's almost exactly one 1st, 2025. So that's almost exactly one year from Donald Trump's second election year from Donald Trump's second election year from Donald Trump's second election as president, which was the first as president, which was the first as president, which was the first Tuesday of course of November 2024. And Tuesday of course of November 2024. And Tuesday of course of November 2024. And if you can recall back almost two years if you can recall back almost two years if you can recall back almost two years and ask yourself what was that election and ask yourself what was that election and ask yourself what was that election about? And if you voted for Trump, and about? And if you voted for Trump, and about? And if you voted for Trump, and if you're watching this, maybe you did, if you're watching this, maybe you did, if you're watching this, maybe you did, I did, what were you voting for? Well, I did, what were you voting for? Well, I did, what were you voting for? Well, probably a lot of things. lower gas probably a lot of things. lower gas probably a lot of things. lower gas prices, no more foreign wars. But one of prices, no more foreign wars. But one of prices, no more foreign wars. But one of the things you were voting against, of the things you were voting against, of the things you were voting against, of course, was what we called cancel course, was what we called cancel course, was what we called cancel culture. The idea that if you disagree culture. The idea that if you disagree culture. The idea that if you disagree with someone, you just SHUT THEM DOWN.

with someone, you just SHUT THEM DOWN. with someone, you just SHUT THEM DOWN. CAN'T have a bank account, can't fly in CAN'T have a bank account, can't fly in CAN'T have a bank account, can't fly in an airplane, can't have a job, can't an airplane, can't have a job, can't an airplane, can't have a job, can't have a spouse. We're just going to have a spouse. We're just going to have a spouse. We're just going to cancel you. We're not going to rebut cancel you. We're not going to rebut cancel you. We're not going to rebut what you're saying. We're not going to what you're saying. We're not going to what you're saying. We're not going to explain why it's wrong. We're not going explain why it's wrong. We're not going explain why it's wrong. We're not going to offer a competing vision that entices to offer a competing vision that entices to offer a competing vision that entices you over to our side. We're going to you over to our side. We're going to you over to our side. We're going to smack you in the face as hard as we can smack you in the face as hard as we can smack you in the face as hard as we can till you shut up and never say it again. till you shut up and never say it again. till you shut up and never say it again. In fact, we may hurt you as a lesson to In fact, we may hurt you as a lesson to In fact, we may hurt you as a lesson to everybody else. Hang you by your ankles everybody else. Hang you by your ankles everybody else. Hang you by your ankles so pastors by will know. Don't say that. so pastors by will know. Don't say that. so pastors by will know. Don't say that. That's what cancel culture is. And if That's what cancel culture is. And if That's what cancel culture is. And if there's one thing that virtually every there's one thing that virtually every there's one thing that virtually every single human being who voted for Donald single human being who voted for Donald single human being who voted for Donald Trump fewer than two years ago voted Trump fewer than two years ago voted Trump fewer than two years ago voted against, it's cancel culture. And here's against, it's cancel culture. And here's against, it's cancel culture. And here's Donald Trump's favorite pundit, Donald Trump's favorite pundit, Donald Trump's favorite pundit, a Fox News host in good standing, unlike a Fox News host in good standing, unlike a Fox News host in good standing, unlike some of us, some of us, some of us, calling openly in a speech on camera for calling openly in a speech on camera for calling openly in a speech on camera for cancel culture, including canceling cancel culture, including canceling cancel culture, including canceling people who don't like Winston Churchill. people who don't like Winston Churchill. people who don't like Winston Churchill. [laughter] But there's menace in his voice, of But there's menace in his voice, of course. Damn it. Bastards. Bastards.

course. Damn it. Bastards. Bastards. course. Damn it. Bastards. Bastards. He wants to hurt people who disagree He wants to hurt people who disagree He wants to hurt people who disagree with him. with him. with him. He's got what we used to refer to in He's got what we used to refer to in He's got what we used to refer to in right-wing world as Antifa face. AH, right-wing world as Antifa face. AH, right-wing world as Antifa face. AH, SCREWED UP IN RAGE. I'M MAD AT MY SCREWED UP IN RAGE. I'M MAD AT MY SCREWED UP IN RAGE. I'M MAD AT MY PARENTS, SO I'M GOING TO BEAT YOU IN THE PARENTS, SO I'M GOING TO BEAT YOU IN THE PARENTS, SO I'M GOING TO BEAT YOU IN THE FACE WITH A FLAGPOLE. AH, ANTIFA FACE. FACE WITH A FLAGPOLE. AH, ANTIFA FACE. FACE WITH A FLAGPOLE. AH, ANTIFA FACE. Mark Levin. Maybe this is what power Mark Levin. Maybe this is what power Mark Levin. Maybe this is what power does to people. Maybe when they finally does to people. Maybe when they finally does to people. Maybe when they finally have the ability to hurt others, when have the ability to hurt others, when have the ability to hurt others, when they think they can finally make words they think they can finally make words they think they can finally make words they don't like go away, shut up or I'll they don't like go away, shut up or I'll they don't like go away, shut up or I'll hurt you, they can't resist using the hurt you, they can't resist using the hurt you, they can't resist using the power to do that. It may be that power power to do that. It may be that power power to do that. It may be that power itself corrupts everyone who wields it. itself corrupts everyone who wields it. itself corrupts everyone who wields it. That's something we're thinking about. That's something we're thinking about. That's something we're thinking about. You don't want to believe that, but You don't want to believe that, but You don't want to believe that, but there's a lot of evidence that that's there's a lot of evidence that that's there's a lot of evidence that that's true given that the people we elected true given that the people we elected true given that the people we elected fewer than 2 years ago wound up behaving fewer than 2 years ago wound up behaving fewer than 2 years ago wound up behaving exactly like the people they replaced, exactly like the people they replaced, exactly like the people they replaced, except a little more aggressive and a except a little more aggressive and a except a little more aggressive and a little less disorganized. Because of little less disorganized. Because of little less disorganized. Because of course, the upside of dealing with course, the upside of dealing with course, the upside of dealing with liberals is they, you know, everything liberals is they, you know, everything liberals is they, you know, everything is like macra and campfires. They can is like macra and campfires. They can is like macra and campfires. They can never really get it together. They argue never really get it together. They argue never really get it together. They argue amongst themselves, but you elect these amongst themselves, but you elect these amongst themselves, but you elect these guys and they're of course still guys and they're of course still guys and they're of course still disorganized and flaky and know they disorganized and flaky and know they disorganized and flaky and know they probably couldn't organize your probably couldn't organize your probably couldn't organize your daughter's birthday party very well, but daughter's birthday party very well, but daughter's birthday party very well, but they're a little better than the Kla they're a little better than the Kla they're a little better than the Kla Harris team. So, it's the same brand of Harris team. So, it's the same brand of Harris team. So, it's the same brand of politics, but a little harder edged.

politics, but a little harder edged. politics, but a little harder edged. What? What? What? It's just remarkable to see it. And it It's just remarkable to see it. And it It's just remarkable to see it. And it makes you wonder, are there options? makes you wonder, are there options? makes you wonder, are there options? And if you care about speech, which is And if you care about speech, which is And if you care about speech, which is if to say if you care about humanity, if to say if you care about humanity, if to say if you care about humanity, because there's no difference. We are because there's no difference. We are because there's no difference. We are defined by language and our ability to defined by language and our ability to defined by language and our ability to use it. It's not the opposable thumb use it. It's not the opposable thumb use it. It's not the opposable thumb that separates us from animals. It's our that separates us from animals. It's our that separates us from animals. It's our tongue. It's language. It's words. In tongue. It's language. It's words. In tongue. It's language. It's words. In the beginning was the word the beginning was the word the beginning was the word as the opening verse of John says, and as the opening verse of John says, and as the opening verse of John says, and it's true. it's true. it's true. The word is the most important thing. The word is the most important thing. The word is the most important thing. Words are the most important thing. They Words are the most important thing. They Words are the most important thing. They endure long past. endure long past. endure long past. Bullets or cannons or swords have been Bullets or cannons or swords have been Bullets or cannons or swords have been replaced by some new technology that replaced by some new technology that replaced by some new technology that kills people. But all that in the end is kills people. But all that in the end is kills people. But all that in the end is forgotten. Words remain. Your words forgotten. Words remain. Your words forgotten. Words remain. Your words define you. And if someone takes away define you. And if someone takes away define you. And if someone takes away your words and your ability to your words and your ability to your words and your ability to articulate them, they've stripped you of articulate them, they've stripped you of articulate them, they've stripped you of your humanity. your humanity. your humanity. So in the end, it is the thing that we So in the end, it is the thing that we So in the end, it is the thing that we have to defend. We have no choice. We have to defend. We have no choice. We have to defend. We have no choice. We have a moral obligation, an obligation, have a moral obligation, an obligation, have a moral obligation, an obligation, a duty to the people who follow us. to a duty to the people who follow us. to a duty to the people who follow us. to defend it.

defend it. defend it. But now the question is who will defend But now the question is who will defend But now the question is who will defend it? Because when the party that opposed it? Because when the party that opposed it? Because when the party that opposed free speech got beaten by the party that free speech got beaten by the party that free speech got beaten by the party that promised to uphold free speech and then promised to uphold free speech and then promised to uphold free speech and then less than two years later both are less than two years later both are less than two years later both are united in their total opposition to free united in their total opposition to free united in their total opposition to free speech and are threatening people openly speech and are threatening people openly speech and are threatening people openly threatening people hurting people who threatening people hurting people who threatening people hurting people who disagree with them and not even disagree with them and not even disagree with them and not even bothering to explain why they're wrong. bothering to explain why they're wrong. bothering to explain why they're wrong. You have to ask, if both parties are You have to ask, if both parties are You have to ask, if both parties are against it, who's for it? And before you against it, who's for it? And before you against it, who's for it? And before you think too long, here's the answer. think too long, here's the answer. think too long, here's the answer. Everyone is for it except the people in Everyone is for it except the people in Everyone is for it except the people in charge. That's the truth. charge. That's the truth. charge. That's the truth. People with power always oppose free People with power always oppose free People with power always oppose free speech. Everybody else, of course, speech. Everybody else, of course, speech. Everybody else, of course, clings to it like a life jacket. It's clings to it like a life jacket. It's clings to it like a life jacket. It's all they have. In a country where people all they have. In a country where people all they have. In a country where people no longer have economic power, where the no longer have economic power, where the no longer have economic power, where the middle class hasn't been the majority of middle class hasn't been the majority of middle class hasn't been the majority of the country since 2015, the country since 2015, the country since 2015, where the integrity of our elections is where the integrity of our elections is where the integrity of our elections is well up for debate in a world where AI well up for debate in a world where AI well up for debate in a world where AI can hack anything, anyone who thinks can hack anything, anyone who thinks can hack anything, anyone who thinks electronic voting is secure hasn't electronic voting is secure hasn't electronic voting is secure hasn't thought about it very carefully.

thought about it very carefully. thought about it very carefully. So in a world where people don't have So in a world where people don't have So in a world where people don't have economic power and they may or may not economic power and they may or may not economic power and they may or may not have political power, what power do they have political power, what power do they have political power, what power do they have? the power of their own conscience have? the power of their own conscience have? the power of their own conscience and their inaliable right to express and their inaliable right to express and their inaliable right to express what's on their conscience. They have in what's on their conscience. They have in what's on their conscience. They have in the end only one thing and that's their the end only one thing and that's their the end only one thing and that's their words. And so anyone who seeks to take words. And so anyone who seeks to take words. And so anyone who seeks to take that away from them is a blood enemy. that away from them is a blood enemy. that away from them is a blood enemy. Make no mistake Make no mistake Make no mistake and that gets us to the free speech case and that gets us to the free speech case and that gets us to the free speech case of the moment which is a unusually of the moment which is a unusually of the moment which is a unusually illuminating one. And it has to do with illuminating one. And it has to do with illuminating one. And it has to do with a performer called McLemore who you may a performer called McLemore who you may a performer called McLemore who you may or may not be familiar with, but he was or may not be familiar with, but he was or may not be familiar with, but he was scheduled to give a performance with Ed scheduled to give a performance with Ed scheduled to give a performance with Ed Sheeran at Gillette Stadium recently and Sheeran at Gillette Stadium recently and Sheeran at Gillette Stadium recently and he was cancelled by Robert Craft, owner he was cancelled by Robert Craft, owner he was cancelled by Robert Craft, owner of the Patriots and owner of a number of of the Patriots and owner of a number of of the Patriots and owner of a number of stadiums who is a I think it's fair to stadiums who is a I think it's fair to stadiums who is a I think it's fair to say a fairly fanatical devote of the say a fairly fanatical devote of the say a fairly fanatical devote of the state of Israel and not just devoted to state of Israel and not just devoted to state of Israel and not just devoted to the state of Israel, which fine, but the state of Israel, which fine, but the state of Israel, which fine, but devoted to hurting anyone who who was devoted to hurting anyone who who was devoted to hurting anyone who who was not and slandering them as anti-semites.

not and slandering them as anti-semites. not and slandering them as anti-semites. And so he canled this performer's And so he canled this performer's And so he canled this performer's appearance at his stadium and said, appearance at his stadium and said, appearance at his stadium and said, "Anyone who criticizes the state of "Anyone who criticizes the state of "Anyone who criticizes the state of Israel," and of course he dressed it up Israel," and of course he dressed it up Israel," and of course he dressed it up in false language, anti-semmites, Nazis, in false language, anti-semmites, Nazis, in false language, anti-semmites, Nazis, Jew haters are not allowed here. Jew haters are not allowed here. Jew haters are not allowed here. But what's interesting about this case But what's interesting about this case But what's interesting about this case is that the performer he canled, is that the performer he canled, is that the performer he canled, Mlemore, Mlemore, Mlemore, had a chance to speak for himself. So we had a chance to speak for himself. So we had a chance to speak for himself. So we want to read this to you. This is what want to read this to you. This is what want to read this to you. This is what he said on stage as he criticized the he said on stage as he criticized the he said on stage as he criticized the state of Israel's behavior in Gaza. And state of Israel's behavior in Gaza. And state of Israel's behavior in Gaza. And just to be clear, anyone who's not just to be clear, anyone who's not just to be clear, anyone who's not criticizing what Israel is doing in Gaza criticizing what Israel is doing in Gaza criticizing what Israel is doing in Gaza is either lying about it and there's is either lying about it and there's is either lying about it and there's some of that or just doesn't know some of that or just doesn't know some of that or just doesn't know anything about it. And there's a lot of anything about it. And there's a lot of anything about it. And there's a lot of that. Most people just don't know. But that. Most people just don't know. But that. Most people just don't know. But five minutes of reading about it and not five minutes of reading about it and not five minutes of reading about it and not just some like partisan anti-Israel take just some like partisan anti-Israel take just some like partisan anti-Israel take on it, but just the facts which have on it, but just the facts which have on it, but just the facts which have been gathered and widely disseminated, been gathered and widely disseminated, been gathered and widely disseminated, anyone who reads about it for five anyone who reads about it for five anyone who reads about it for five minutes cannot come away defending it minutes cannot come away defending it minutes cannot come away defending it because there is no defense of murdering because there is no defense of murdering because there is no defense of murdering tens of thousands of children. It's tens of thousands of children. It's tens of thousands of children. It's always and everywhere wrong. Whether always and everywhere wrong. Whether always and everywhere wrong. Whether Jewish children or Catholic children or Jewish children or Catholic children or Jewish children or Catholic children or Palestinian children, doesn't matter. In Palestinian children, doesn't matter. In Palestinian children, doesn't matter. In any case, before we tell you what Robert any case, before we tell you what Robert any case, before we tell you what Robert Craft and various news outlets said Craft and various news outlets said Craft and various news outlets said about this performer McLemore, about this performer McLemore, about this performer McLemore, here's what MLmore himself said because here's what MLmore himself said because here's what MLmore himself said because it matters. These are the words that got it matters. These are the words that got it matters. These are the words that got him cancelled as a Jew hater. And we're him cancelled as a Jew hater. And we're him cancelled as a Jew hater. And we're going to read them. Quote, going to read them. Quote, going to read them. Quote, "To all my Jewish brothers and sisters, "To all my Jewish brothers and sisters, "To all my Jewish brothers and sisters, criticism of Israel, criticism of criticism of Israel, criticism of criticism of Israel, criticism of apartate, being against genocide in no apartate, being against genocide in no apartate, being against genocide in no way is a criticism of you. My message is way is a criticism of you. My message is way is a criticism of you. My message is for peace, love for all human beings to

for peace, love for all human beings to for peace, love for all human beings to be treated with dignity, respect and be treated with dignity, respect and be treated with dignity, respect and equality. So I say free Palestine. I say equality. So I say free Palestine. I say equality. So I say free Palestine. I say free Lebanon, free Cuba. He goes on free Lebanon, free Cuba. He goes on free Lebanon, free Cuba. He goes on to my Jewish brothers and sisters, to my Jewish brothers and sisters, to my Jewish brothers and sisters, criticism of Israel, criticism of criticism of Israel, criticism of criticism of Israel, criticism of partaking against genocide is no way a partaking against genocide is no way a partaking against genocide is no way a criticism of you. Because by the way, criticism of you. Because by the way, criticism of you. Because by the way, it's not. it's not. it's not. It's not. Criticism of the behavior of a It's not. Criticism of the behavior of a It's not. Criticism of the behavior of a secular government secular government secular government is not criticism of an entire people, is not criticism of an entire people, is not criticism of an entire people, many of whom disapprove. in fact hate many of whom disapprove. in fact hate many of whom disapprove. in fact hate what that government is doing. And so what that government is doing. And so what that government is doing. And so don't let anyone lie to you. They are don't let anyone lie to you. They are don't let anyone lie to you. They are not the same thing. That is not Jew not the same thing. That is not Jew not the same thing. That is not Jew hate. Despite what the IH definition may hate. Despite what the IH definition may hate. Despite what the IH definition may try to impose on you and this country's try to impose on you and this country's try to impose on you and this country's legal code, they are not the same thing. legal code, they are not the same thing. legal code, they are not the same thing. And so that's what he said. So for And so that's what he said. So for And so that's what he said. So for saying that, we want to put on the saying that, we want to put on the saying that, we want to put on the screen how Fox News characterized that. screen how Fox News characterized that. screen how Fox News characterized that. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. This is the headline of the story. This is the headline of the story. This is the headline of the story. Anti-Semitic rapper booted from Anti-Semitic rapper booted from Anti-Semitic rapper booted from performing at Gillette Stadium over free performing at Gillette Stadium over free performing at Gillette Stadium over free Palestine chant.

Palestine chant. Palestine chant. Anti-Semitic rapper. Okay. Now, now it's Anti-Semitic rapper. Okay. Now, now it's Anti-Semitic rapper. Okay. Now, now it's actually worth going on here. You find actually worth going on here. You find actually worth going on here. You find yourself in middle age doing things you yourself in middle age doing things you yourself in middle age doing things you never thought you would do, which is never thought you would do, which is never thought you would do, which is like defending political rappers on your like defending political rappers on your like defending political rappers on your podcast. Never thought I'd be here. But podcast. Never thought I'd be here. But podcast. Never thought I'd be here. But it's not a defense of any one person. it's not a defense of any one person. it's not a defense of any one person. It's a defense of the truth, of the It's a defense of the truth, of the It's a defense of the truth, of the literal meaning of words, and the intent literal meaning of words, and the intent literal meaning of words, and the intent of the words, and of reason. But above of the words, and of reason. But above of the words, and of reason. But above all, it's a defense of the inaliable all, it's a defense of the inaliable all, it's a defense of the inaliable right of every person to express his right of every person to express his right of every person to express his conscience, whether you or I like it or conscience, whether you or I like it or conscience, whether you or I like it or not. not. not. So, the Fox News piece, and not to beat So, the Fox News piece, and not to beat So, the Fox News piece, and not to beat up on Fox News, but a lot of people up on Fox News, but a lot of people up on Fox News, but a lot of people uncritically believe what they watch or uncritically believe what they watch or uncritically believe what they watch or read. And so, here's how Fox News.com read. And so, here's how Fox News.com read. And so, here's how Fox News.com characterized this controversy. Quote, characterized this controversy. Quote, characterized this controversy. Quote, "Mlemore is learning the hard way that "Mlemore is learning the hard way that "Mlemore is learning the hard way that concertgoers paying top dollar for concertgoers paying top dollar for concertgoers paying top dollar for stadium shows do not want to lecture on stadium shows do not want to lecture on stadium shows do not want to lecture on Middle Eastern geopolitics from the guy Middle Eastern geopolitics from the guy Middle Eastern geopolitics from the guy who wrote thrift shop." who wrote thrift shop." who wrote thrift shop." Oh, [clears throat] okay. So, what does Oh, [clears throat] okay. So, what does Oh, [clears throat] okay. So, what does that tell you? Concert goers who paid a that tell you? Concert goers who paid a that tell you? Concert goers who paid a lot for these tickets aren't interested lot for these tickets aren't interested lot for these tickets aren't interested in McLemore's views on the Middle East.

in McLemore's views on the Middle East. in McLemore's views on the Middle East. Well, we haven't pulled the topic, so of Well, we haven't pulled the topic, so of Well, we haven't pulled the topic, so of course we don't know. course we don't know. course we don't know. We watched a video of his performance on We watched a video of his performance on We watched a video of his performance on stage and we noticed that the whole stage and we noticed that the whole stage and we noticed that the whole stadium seemed to be cheering him as he stadium seemed to be cheering him as he stadium seemed to be cheering him as he said free Palestine. But what do we said free Palestine. But what do we said free Palestine. But what do we know? We're not pollsters. What we do know? We're not pollsters. What we do know? We're not pollsters. What we do know is that the audience didn't make know is that the audience didn't make know is that the audience didn't make the decision. the decision. the decision. And in fact, there's a way to know what And in fact, there's a way to know what And in fact, there's a way to know what the audience thinks and that's by the audience thinks and that's by the audience thinks and that's by continuing allow to allow Mlemore to continuing allow to allow Mlemore to continuing allow to allow Mlemore to perform. And if he sells tickets, well, perform. And if he sells tickets, well, perform. And if he sells tickets, well, presumably the audience agrees or they presumably the audience agrees or they presumably the audience agrees or they wouldn't be buying them. But the Fox wouldn't be buying them. But the Fox wouldn't be buying them. But the Fox News piece in a very kind of clever News piece in a very kind of clever News piece in a very kind of clever feline, incredibly dishonest way frames feline, incredibly dishonest way frames feline, incredibly dishonest way frames this as a decision that the audience this as a decision that the audience this as a decision that the audience made. Concert goers who paid high dollar made. Concert goers who paid high dollar made. Concert goers who paid high dollar for tickets don't want to hear the for tickets don't want to hear the for tickets don't want to hear the lecture. lecture. lecture. Really? They're the ones who canled him. Really? They're the ones who canled him. Really? They're the ones who canled him. They're the ones who said you can't They're the ones who said you can't They're the ones who said you can't perform at the stadium. Oh no. One perform at the stadium. Oh no. One perform at the stadium. Oh no. One billionaire made that decision and then billionaire made that decision and then billionaire made that decision and then he got in the line with a bunch of other he got in the line with a bunch of other he got in the line with a bunch of other billionaires who also own sports teams billionaires who also own sports teams billionaires who also own sports teams and said we can't let this guy perform and said we can't let this guy perform and said we can't let this guy perform in our stadiums. in our stadiums. in our stadiums. Is that the market at work? Is it Is that the market at work? Is it Is that the market at work? Is it actually the market at work? That's what actually the market at work? That's what actually the market at work? That's what they're telling you. Which his stadium?

they're telling you. Which his stadium? they're telling you. Which his stadium? Really? Well, if that's going to be the Really? Well, if that's going to be the Really? Well, if that's going to be the standard, let's take a close look at how standard, let's take a close look at how standard, let's take a close look at how he got the stadium. Were there state or he got the stadium. Were there state or he got the stadium. Were there state or federal tax dollars involved in that? federal tax dollars involved in that? federal tax dollars involved in that? Was that purchase in any way subsidized Was that purchase in any way subsidized Was that purchase in any way subsidized by the public? Yeah, I think so. Has any by the public? Yeah, I think so. Has any by the public? Yeah, I think so. Has any stadium in the last 30 years in the stadium in the last 30 years in the stadium in the last 30 years in the United States been a product of pure United States been a product of pure United States been a product of pure market capitalism? market capitalism? market capitalism? or are they all subsidized by taxpayers? or are they all subsidized by taxpayers? or are they all subsidized by taxpayers? I don't know. We're going to have to gro I don't know. We're going to have to gro I don't know. We're going to have to gro that one. But our guess is that every that one. But our guess is that every that one. But our guess is that every single stadium in the United States, single stadium in the United States, single stadium in the United States, including Gillette Stadium, which is including Gillette Stadium, which is including Gillette Stadium, which is owned by Robert Craft, owned by Robert Craft, owned by Robert Craft, is subsidized by taxpayers against their is subsidized by taxpayers against their is subsidized by taxpayers against their will. So, it's not as simple as, oh, he will. So, it's not as simple as, oh, he will. So, it's not as simple as, oh, he owns it, or any of these people own owns it, or any of these people own owns it, or any of these people own anything, and we are strongly in favor anything, and we are strongly in favor anything, and we are strongly in favor of property rights. strongly and of property rights. strongly and of property rights. strongly and justice. justice. justice. But that's not what's happening here. But that's not what's happening here. But that's not what's happening here. This is a veto by one guy likely against This is a veto by one guy likely against This is a veto by one guy likely against the wishes of the overwhelming majority the wishes of the overwhelming majority the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the American population. So don't of the American population. So don't of the American population. So don't tell me this is a product of the market tell me this is a product of the market tell me this is a product of the market at work. This is censorship by the at work. This is censorship by the at work. This is censorship by the billionaire Epstein class. And by the billionaire Epstein class. And by the billionaire Epstein class. And by the way, yes, he is mentioned in the Epstein way, yes, he is mentioned in the Epstein way, yes, he is mentioned in the Epstein files. Look it up.

files. Look it up. files. Look it up. So why would you defend that? You could So why would you defend that? You could So why would you defend that? You could argue about how to fix it. Not that easy argue about how to fix it. Not that easy argue about how to fix it. Not that easy to fix really. There are some, and if to fix really. There are some, and if to fix really. There are some, and if this goes on long enough, there will be this goes on long enough, there will be this goes on long enough, there will be many who just call from taking the many who just call from taking the many who just call from taking the stadium away from Robert CF. We're not stadium away from Robert CF. We're not stadium away from Robert CF. We're not for that. for that. for that. We're running for anything radical or We're running for anything radical or We're running for anything radical or crazy, actually. crazy, actually. crazy, actually. This is a hotbed of moderation. But we This is a hotbed of moderation. But we This is a hotbed of moderation. But we can tell you that if someone doesn't can tell you that if someone doesn't can tell you that if someone doesn't move to fix the current situation where move to fix the current situation where move to fix the current situation where a tiny group of totally immoral a tiny group of totally immoral a tiny group of totally immoral monomomaniacal people who have no actual monomomaniacal people who have no actual monomomaniacal people who have no actual connection to the United States or connection to the United States or connection to the United States or loyalty or to it or love for it loyalty or to it or love for it loyalty or to it or love for it and don't care at all about and don't care at all about and don't care at all about the founding documents the founding documents the founding documents and the spirit that they express which and the spirit that they express which and the spirit that they express which is of individual sovereignty. is of individual sovereignty. is of individual sovereignty. If those people continue behaving like If those people continue behaving like If those people continue behaving like this, you're going to get a radical this, you're going to get a radical this, you're going to get a radical population. population. population. So maybe short term, Robert Craft felt So maybe short term, Robert Craft felt So maybe short term, Robert Craft felt like he was doing a good thing by like he was doing a good thing by like he was doing a good thing by getting this Jew hater off stage who getting this Jew hater off stage who getting this Jew hater off stage who just spent, you know, five minutes on just spent, you know, five minutes on just spent, you know, five minutes on stage explaining how he loves Jews but stage explaining how he loves Jews but stage explaining how he loves Jews but doesn't like the behavior of the doesn't like the behavior of the doesn't like the behavior of the Netanyahu government and it's like a Netanyahu government and it's like a Netanyahu government and it's like a good thing to slander him as an good thing to slander him as an good thing to slander him as an anti-semite.

anti-semite. anti-semite. But long term, it's very foolish and But long term, it's very foolish and But long term, it's very foolish and it's even more foolish to defend it as it's even more foolish to defend it as it's even more foolish to defend it as many on the so-called right are. And many on the so-called right are. And many on the so-called right are. And that raises the question, what does it that raises the question, what does it that raises the question, what does it mean to be on the right mean to be on the right mean to be on the right if you're defending censorship by if you're defending censorship by if you're defending censorship by billionaires who share none of your billionaires who share none of your billionaires who share none of your values? values? values? How are you conservative? How are you conservative? How are you conservative? And how more precisely, And how more precisely, And how more precisely, a year and 5 days after the murder of a year and 5 days after the murder of a year and 5 days after the murder of Charlie Kirk, are you upholding his Charlie Kirk, are you upholding his Charlie Kirk, are you upholding his memory? Well, that's the question we had memory? Well, that's the question we had memory? Well, that's the question we had to ask ourselves as we saw someone we to ask ourselves as we saw someone we to ask ourselves as we saw someone we know very well and still like, know very well and still like, know very well and still like, but who appears every day on the Charlie but who appears every day on the Charlie but who appears every day on the Charlie Kirk show say something we found Kirk show say something we found Kirk show say something we found absolutely remarkable. And this is not a absolutely remarkable. And this is not a absolutely remarkable. And this is not a personal attack and it's done with some personal attack and it's done with some personal attack and it's done with some reluctance, reluctance, reluctance, but you just have to say it out loud. but you just have to say it out loud. but you just have to say it out loud. This is where we are. We're talking This is where we are. We're talking This is where we are. We're talking about a man called Blake Ne who worked about a man called Blake Ne who worked about a man called Blake Ne who worked for me for years. Always liked him a for me for years. Always liked him a for me for years. Always liked him a lot. Helped get him the job that he lot. Helped get him the job that he lot. Helped get him the job that he currently has. currently has. currently has. But there was a pretty distressing But there was a pretty distressing But there was a pretty distressing and highly revealing, which is why we're and highly revealing, which is why we're and highly revealing, which is why we're going to talk about it, profile of him going to talk about it, profile of him going to talk about it, profile of him in Politico recently. And there's a lot in Politico recently. And there's a lot in Politico recently. And there's a lot in there that we're not going to get in there that we're not going to get in there that we're not going to get involved with, but there was a passage involved with, but there was a passage involved with, but there was a passage that we do think is worth highlighting that we do think is worth highlighting that we do think is worth highlighting because it tells you a lot about the because it tells you a lot about the because it tells you a lot about the total rot at the center of the total rot at the center of the total rot at the center of the conservative movement as of September conservative movement as of September conservative movement as of September 2026.

2026. 2026. And whenever you get this kind of rot, And whenever you get this kind of rot, And whenever you get this kind of rot, you get people who literally can't hear you get people who literally can't hear you get people who literally can't hear themselves. And we're not don't want to themselves. And we're not don't want to themselves. And we're not don't want to be too judgmental here because a lot has be too judgmental here because a lot has be too judgmental here because a lot has happened in the last year. A lot of happened in the last year. A lot of happened in the last year. A lot of traumatic events for the staff of traumatic events for the staff of traumatic events for the staff of Turning Point. And so you always want to Turning Point. And so you always want to Turning Point. And so you always want to extend grace to them. I've tried to do extend grace to them. I've tried to do extend grace to them. I've tried to do that even as they do things I disagree that even as they do things I disagree that even as they do things I disagree with. And I know that Charlie would with. And I know that Charlie would with. And I know that Charlie would vehemently disagree with vehemently disagree with vehemently disagree with and I've been frustrated by that, but and I've been frustrated by that, but and I've been frustrated by that, but haven't said a word. But the second that haven't said a word. But the second that haven't said a word. But the second that you give up on the very core of Charlie you give up on the very core of Charlie you give up on the very core of Charlie Kirk's message while continuing to Kirk's message while continuing to Kirk's message while continuing to occupy his studio under his name, I occupy his studio under his name, I occupy his studio under his name, I think it's important to say something. think it's important to say something. think it's important to say something. So that's what we're doing now. So I So that's what we're doing now. So I So that's what we're doing now. So I want to read this to you. This is a want to read this to you. This is a want to read this to you. This is a profile of Blake Nef from Politico. Nef profile of Blake Nef from Politico. Nef profile of Blake Nef from Politico. Nef confessed to grappling in a roundabout confessed to grappling in a roundabout confessed to grappling in a roundabout way with the possibility that his way with the possibility that his way with the possibility that his maximalist position on free speech has maximalist position on free speech has maximalist position on free speech has helped foster the conditions that have helped foster the conditions that have helped foster the conditions that have allowed rank conspiracism to flourish. allowed rank conspiracism to flourish. allowed rank conspiracism to flourish. I've reflected on this often, he said, I've reflected on this often, he said, I've reflected on this often, he said, sipping a samora's flavored cold brew on sipping a samora's flavored cold brew on sipping a samora's flavored cold brew on a leather couch in the studio's green a leather couch in the studio's green a leather couch in the studio's green room. So, let's just stop right there. A room. So, let's just stop right there. A room. So, let's just stop right there. A maximalist position on free speech. And maximalist position on free speech. And maximalist position on free speech. And this is not that, by the way, that's not this is not that, by the way, that's not this is not that, by the way, that's not a Blake Nef quote. It's just to be a Blake Nef quote. It's just to be a Blake Nef quote. It's just to be completely fair and we want to be fair.

completely fair and we want to be fair. completely fair and we want to be fair. That's the anti-free speech political That's the anti-free speech political That's the anti-free speech political author Ian Ward's author Ian Ward's author Ian Ward's kind of clever framing here, but it's kind of clever framing here, but it's kind of clever framing here, but it's very common maximalist position. Well, very common maximalist position. Well, very common maximalist position. Well, there's no maximalist position on free there's no maximalist position on free there's no maximalist position on free speech anymore than there is on speech anymore than there is on speech anymore than there is on pregnancy. You either are for it or you pregnancy. You either are for it or you pregnancy. You either are for it or you are pregnant or you're not. Free speech are pregnant or you're not. Free speech are pregnant or you're not. Free speech means acknowledging the inherent right means acknowledging the inherent right means acknowledging the inherent right of your fellow citizens, whether or not of your fellow citizens, whether or not of your fellow citizens, whether or not you like them, to say what they really you like them, to say what they really you like them, to say what they really think. Period. And if what they really think. Period. And if what they really think. Period. And if what they really think is repugnant to you, and if they think is repugnant to you, and if they think is repugnant to you, and if they have some version of events that you have some version of events that you have some version of events that you consider a poisonous conspiracy theory, consider a poisonous conspiracy theory, consider a poisonous conspiracy theory, there's not really anything you can do there's not really anything you can do there's not really anything you can do about it. In fact, there's literally about it. In fact, there's literally about it. In fact, there's literally nothing you can do about it under our nothing you can do about it under our nothing you can do about it under our system, and I would also argue under system, and I would also argue under system, and I would also argue under Christian precepts, other than rebutting Christian precepts, other than rebutting Christian precepts, other than rebutting vision that is more compelling to vision that is more compelling to vision that is more compelling to listeners. That's it. As Charlie Kirk listeners. That's it. As Charlie Kirk listeners. That's it. As Charlie Kirk said at the outset of this segment, more said at the outset of this segment, more said at the outset of this segment, more speech. speech. speech. But that's not the conclusion that many But that's not the conclusion that many But that's not the conclusion that many on the right are coming to. Now, why?

on the right are coming to. Now, why? on the right are coming to. Now, why? probably because they spend way too much probably because they spend way too much probably because they spend way too much time on social media and they read every time on social media and they read every time on social media and they read every attack on themselves and they get more attack on themselves and they get more attack on themselves and they get more paranoid. In fact, they become kind of a paranoid. In fact, they become kind of a paranoid. In fact, they become kind of a version of what they claim to hate, version of what they claim to hate, version of what they claim to hate, which is conspiracy nuts. But they get which is conspiracy nuts. But they get which is conspiracy nuts. But they get completely overheated. They feel like completely overheated. They feel like completely overheated. They feel like they're at war. I'm at war. Never seen they're at war. I'm at war. Never seen they're at war. I'm at war. Never seen war, of course, war, of course, war, of course, but they think they're at war. They but they think they're at war. They but they think they're at war. They think they're under attack. think they're under attack. think they're under attack. And bit by bit, it completely corrods And bit by bit, it completely corrods And bit by bit, it completely corrods their decency, but also their sense of their decency, but also their sense of their decency, but also their sense of proportion. and they wind up abandoning proportion. and they wind up abandoning proportion. and they wind up abandoning the principles they're there to uphold. the principles they're there to uphold. the principles they're there to uphold. So as they sit day after day underneath So as they sit day after day underneath So as they sit day after day underneath a sign that says Charlie Kirk on it, a sign that says Charlie Kirk on it, a sign that says Charlie Kirk on it, they wind up with views like this. And they wind up with views like this. And they wind up with views like this. And we're going to read this and we're we're going to read this and we're we're going to read this and we're quoting, this is Blake Nef, the guy in quoting, this is Blake Nef, the guy in quoting, this is Blake Nef, the guy in the Charlie Kirk show. We got what we the Charlie Kirk show. We got what we the Charlie Kirk show. We got what we wanted on speech and that means we also wanted on speech and that means we also wanted on speech and that means we also have to endure a lot of things that were have to endure a lot of things that were have to endure a lot of things that were tamped down on before. Nef sees only two tamped down on before. Nef sees only two tamped down on before. Nef sees only two potential paths for this verbatim quote. potential paths for this verbatim quote. potential paths for this verbatim quote. Either we have to make our peace with Either we have to make our peace with Either we have to make our peace with censorship and explain how we're going censorship and explain how we're going censorship and explain how we're going to do that or we have to explain how to do that or we have to explain how to do that or we have to explain how we're going to combat this without we're going to combat this without we're going to combat this without censorship. Period. But we've got to censorship. Period. But we've got to censorship. Period. But we've got to confront it.

And that's the point at which you just And that's the point at which you just you just feel like, well, we're done. you just feel like, well, we're done. you just feel like, well, we're done. We may have to make our peace with We may have to make our peace with We may have to make our peace with censorship. How would we do that? It's censorship. How would we do that? It's censorship. How would we do that? It's like saying, well, you know, I'm I'm like saying, well, you know, I'm I'm like saying, well, you know, I'm I'm really mad. I we may have to make our really mad. I we may have to make our really mad. I we may have to make our peace with genocide. We may have to peace with genocide. We may have to peace with genocide. We may have to kill, you know. Didn't Didn't ever think kill, you know. Didn't Didn't ever think kill, you know. Didn't Didn't ever think I'd say it. Didn't ever think I'd be I'd say it. Didn't ever think I'd be I'd say it. Didn't ever think I'd be here. We're going to have to kill them here. We're going to have to kill them here. We're going to have to kill them all. Maybe there's another way to do it. all. Maybe there's another way to do it. all. Maybe there's another way to do it. But it's possible we might have to make But it's possible we might have to make But it's possible we might have to make our peace with murdering all their kids our peace with murdering all their kids our peace with murdering all their kids just cuz it's it's that important. It's just cuz it's it's that important. It's just cuz it's it's that important. It's that bad. Didn't didn't think we'd come that bad. Didn't didn't think we'd come that bad. Didn't didn't think we'd come to this place, but here we are. So, to this place, but here we are. So, to this place, but here we are. So, we're going to think about it. we're going to think about it. we're going to think about it. No, you can never make your peace with No, you can never make your peace with No, you can never make your peace with turning other people into slaves. turning other people into slaves. turning other people into slaves. You can never be the slave master You can never be the slave master You can never be the slave master because slavery is bad for them. But because slavery is bad for them. But because slavery is bad for them. But it's even worse for you. It is totally it's even worse for you. It is totally it's even worse for you. It is totally dehumanizing to everyone involved to dehumanizing to everyone involved to dehumanizing to everyone involved to turn other human beings into something turn other human beings into something turn other human beings into something that is less than a human being. And that is less than a human being. And that is less than a human being. And that is exactly what censorship does that is exactly what censorship does that is exactly what censorship does each and every time. So even to float each and every time. So even to float each and every time. So even to float that possibility that you could quote that possibility that you could quote that possibility that you could quote make your peace with it. There will be make your peace with it. There will be make your peace with it. There will be no peace with censorship, you can't have no peace with censorship, you can't have no peace with censorship, you can't have peace with censorship because you are peace with censorship because you are peace with censorship because you are suppressing by definition what people suppressing by definition what people suppressing by definition what people believe is true. So if you want to believe is true. So if you want to believe is true. So if you want to eliminate, if you want to forall even eliminate, if you want to forall even eliminate, if you want to forall even the possibility of peace, the possibility of peace, the possibility of peace, try to impose censorship. It's an try to impose censorship. It's an try to impose censorship. It's an oxymoron. Make your peace with oxymoron. Make your peace with oxymoron. Make your peace with censorship.

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have free speech in the United States as have free speech in the United States as of now? of now? of now? I think it would be wrong to say that we I think it would be wrong to say that we I think it would be wrong to say that we have free speech considering the fact have free speech considering the fact have free speech considering the fact that we literally have the majority of that we literally have the majority of that we literally have the majority of our states passing laws that would our states passing laws that would our states passing laws that would punish American citizens or punish American citizens or punish American citizens or organizations that are critical of organizations that are critical of organizations that are critical of Israel by denying them any public money Israel by denying them any public money Israel by denying them any public money or public grant. That's clearly a or public grant. That's clearly a or public grant. That's clearly a violation of our constitutional rights violation of our constitutional rights violation of our constitutional rights because it's literally the government because it's literally the government because it's literally the government getting involved and violating our getting involved and violating our getting involved and violating our freedom of expression. So no, at this freedom of expression. So no, at this freedom of expression. So no, at this current moment, I would not say that we current moment, I would not say that we current moment, I would not say that we actually fully have free speech here in actually fully have free speech here in actually fully have free speech here in the United States. the United States. the United States. >> Yes. There's a there's a way though that >> Yes. There's a there's a way though that >> Yes. There's a there's a way though that free speech is not just defined as the free speech is not just defined as the free speech is not just defined as the constitution defines it which is a constitution defines it which is a constitution defines it which is a system where the government stays system where the government stays system where the government stays neutral on speech but also like on a neutral on speech but also like on a neutral on speech but also like on a practical level if you are punished by practical level if you are punished by practical level if you are punished by organizations by saying denying you a organizations by saying denying you a organizations by saying denying you a job or housing or a right to a bank job or housing or a right to a bank job or housing or a right to a bank account or a right to live peacefully in account or a right to live peacefully in account or a right to live peacefully in your own home then like in what sense do your own home then like in what sense do your own home then like in what sense do you have free speech?

you have free speech? you have free speech? >> Well, I mean that's true. Uh now the >> Well, I mean that's true. Uh now the >> Well, I mean that's true. Uh now the argument is that if you are engaging in argument is that if you are engaging in argument is that if you are engaging in certain speech, you can't expect that it certain speech, you can't expect that it certain speech, you can't expect that it comes without consequence. That's right. comes without consequence. That's right. comes without consequence. That's right. That you that you should expect a That you that you should expect a That you that you should expect a response that you might not like to that response that you might not like to that response that you might not like to that speech. And you know the big argument speech. And you know the big argument speech. And you know the big argument that you'll hear from those defending that you'll hear from those defending that you'll hear from those defending say uh Robert Craft today uh would argue say uh Robert Craft today uh would argue say uh Robert Craft today uh would argue well Robert Craft is the billionaire who well Robert Craft is the billionaire who well Robert Craft is the billionaire who owns the Gillette stadium and he gets to owns the Gillette stadium and he gets to owns the Gillette stadium and he gets to decide what type of musical acts are decide what type of musical acts are decide what type of musical acts are able to perform there. Okay, I guess able to perform there. Okay, I guess able to perform there. Okay, I guess that's a fair point to make, but why that's a fair point to make, but why that's a fair point to make, but why don't we take a step back and look at don't we take a step back and look at don't we take a step back and look at how this intermingles with our how this intermingles with our how this intermingles with our democratic process because if I can democratic process because if I can democratic process because if I can recall several years ago, you had, you recall several years ago, you had, you recall several years ago, you had, you know, the world's elites getting know, the world's elites getting know, the world's elites getting together at the World Economic Forum to together at the World Economic Forum to together at the World Economic Forum to note that their plan moving forward is note that their plan moving forward is note that their plan moving forward is to ensure that no one owns anything. In to ensure that no one owns anything. In to ensure that no one owns anything. In fact, uh, all of us will just have to fact, uh, all of us will just have to fact, uh, all of us will just have to rent things. So, there will be the rent things. So, there will be the rent things. So, there will be the owners who own the property and then the owners who own the property and then the owners who own the property and then the rest of us. And so if we're going to rest of us. And so if we're going to rest of us. And so if we're going to base free speech rights on base free speech rights on base free speech rights on property owners, you know, the wealthy property owners, you know, the wealthy property owners, you know, the wealthy elite being able to squash free speech elite being able to squash free speech elite being able to squash free speech because they happen to own things and we because they happen to own things and we because they happen to own things and we don't. Is that really a fair and just don't. Is that really a fair and just don't. Is that really a fair and just society? And do we have the economic society? And do we have the economic society? And do we have the economic conditions on the ground to ensure that conditions on the ground to ensure that conditions on the ground to ensure that there's a level playing field? So if one there's a level playing field? So if one there's a level playing field? So if one billionaire decides, "No, I'm going to billionaire decides, "No, I'm going to billionaire decides, "No, I'm going to crush you because I don't like your crush you because I don't like your crush you because I don't like your comments about a foreign country." Are comments about a foreign country." Are comments about a foreign country." Are we going to have other opportunities or we going to have other opportunities or we going to have other opportunities or other platforms, other means to put our

other platforms, other means to put our other platforms, other means to put our work out into the world? You know, work out into the world? You know, work out into the world? You know, that's the real question here. Yeah. that's the real question here. Yeah. that's the real question here. Yeah. >> Well, and in some way, I mean, the >> Well, and in some way, I mean, the >> Well, and in some way, I mean, the nature of our economy has changed. The nature of our economy has changed. The nature of our economy has changed. The economic structure of the United States economic structure of the United States economic structure of the United States has changed. Obviously, there's much has changed. Obviously, there's much has changed. Obviously, there's much more concentration at the top, but the more concentration at the top, but the more concentration at the top, but the truth is rich people have always run truth is rich people have always run truth is rich people have always run this in every other country. I just this in every other country. I just this in every other country. I just think we have different a different kind think we have different a different kind think we have different a different kind of rich people. Like previous of rich people. Like previous of rich people. Like previous generations of oligarchs felt like, generations of oligarchs felt like, generations of oligarchs felt like, well, you know, everybody has a right to well, you know, everybody has a right to well, you know, everybody has a right to say what he thinks and if I disagree say what he thinks and if I disagree say what he thinks and if I disagree with you, I've got some obligation to with you, I've got some obligation to with you, I've got some obligation to explain why and make a counter case. I explain why and make a counter case. I explain why and make a counter case. I don't see that that gracefulness at all don't see that that gracefulness at all don't see that that gracefulness at all in evidence. Now, it seems like our in evidence. Now, it seems like our in evidence. Now, it seems like our current leadership class, the current current leadership class, the current current leadership class, the current oligarchs who run everything, just oligarchs who run everything, just oligarchs who run everything, just decide like if I disagree with you, I decide like if I disagree with you, I decide like if I disagree with you, I don't have to explain why. I don't have don't have to explain why. I don't have don't have to explain why. I don't have to convince people that you're wrong and to convince people that you're wrong and to convince people that you're wrong and I'm right. I can just crush you and I'm right. I can just crush you and I'm right. I can just crush you and that's enough. that's enough. that's enough. >> Well, there used to be a middle >> Well, there used to be a middle >> Well, there used to be a middle middleman, I guess, and that middleman middleman, I guess, and that middleman middleman, I guess, and that middleman used to be our government, right? Where used to be our government, right? Where used to be our government, right? Where the government would step in and uh the government would step in and uh the government would step in and uh provide protections or defend ordinary provide protections or defend ordinary provide protections or defend ordinary people. And I'm worried about the lack people. And I'm worried about the lack people. And I'm worried about the lack of will among our political elite to do of will among our political elite to do of will among our political elite to do what they know is the right thing to do what they know is the right thing to do what they know is the right thing to do in serving the American people. I mean, in serving the American people. I mean, in serving the American people. I mean, these are people who signed up to be these are people who signed up to be these are people who signed up to be public servants, yet all they do is public servants, yet all they do is public servants, yet all they do is serve moneyed interests who bribe them serve moneyed interests who bribe them serve moneyed interests who bribe them during their campaigns. And so, just to during their campaigns. And so, just to during their campaigns. And so, just to give you one example, and I know you've give you one example, and I know you've give you one example, and I know you've been very critical of FDR, but not for been very critical of FDR, but not for been very critical of FDR, but not for the reason that I'm about to describe.

the reason that I'm about to describe. the reason that I'm about to describe. You know, FDR was savvy enough to You know, FDR was savvy enough to You know, FDR was savvy enough to realize that following the Great realize that following the Great realize that following the Great Depression, uh, communism, socialism was Depression, uh, communism, socialism was Depression, uh, communism, socialism was on the rise and he very much wanted to on the rise and he very much wanted to on the rise and he very much wanted to protect a capitalistic society. So he protect a capitalistic society. So he protect a capitalistic society. So he realized if I don't step in and realized if I don't step in and realized if I don't step in and implement some of these economic implement some of these economic implement some of these economic policies that will help improve the policies that will help improve the policies that will help improve the quality of life for ordinary American quality of life for ordinary American quality of life for ordinary American workers, we're headed toward socialism. workers, we're headed toward socialism. workers, we're headed toward socialism. We're headed toward communism. And he We're headed toward communism. And he We're headed toward communism. And he didn't want that. And so it same with didn't want that. And so it same with didn't want that. And so it same with Henry Ford. I mean Henry Ford was the Henry Ford. I mean Henry Ford was the Henry Ford. I mean Henry Ford was the CEO who decided, you know what, it makes CEO who decided, you know what, it makes CEO who decided, you know what, it makes sense to give them my workers the sense to give them my workers the sense to give them my workers the weekends off. it makes sense for me to weekends off. it makes sense for me to weekends off. it makes sense for me to pay them enough money to be able to pay them enough money to be able to pay them enough money to be able to afford Ford vehicles. Like these are afford Ford vehicles. Like these are afford Ford vehicles. Like these are people who don't just think about their people who don't just think about their people who don't just think about their personal benefits and what benefits them personal benefits and what benefits them personal benefits and what benefits them in the short term. They have long-term in the short term. They have long-term in the short term. They have long-term goals that goes beyond, you know, their goals that goes beyond, you know, their goals that goes beyond, you know, their own self-indulgence. And we just don't own self-indulgence. And we just don't own self-indulgence. And we just don't have much of that right now, either in have much of that right now, either in have much of that right now, either in our political elite or certainly not our political elite or certainly not our political elite or certainly not among the billionaire oligarchs who uh among the billionaire oligarchs who uh among the billionaire oligarchs who uh we're unfortunately being ruled by right we're unfortunately being ruled by right we're unfortunately being ruled by right now. Yeah, there there's not a lot of now. Yeah, there there's not a lot of now. Yeah, there there's not a lot of longitudinal thinking. It seems like longitudinal thinking. It seems like longitudinal thinking. It seems like there's a kind of a day trade uh there's a kind of a day trade uh there's a kind of a day trade uh worldview in force. So, you've always worldview in force. So, you've always worldview in force. So, you've always been on the left or the progressive been on the left or the progressive been on the left or the progressive left. I don't think you're much of a left. I don't think you're much of a left. I don't think you're much of a Republican voter. Um and or haven't been Republican voter. Um and or haven't been Republican voter. Um and or haven't been anyway. Uh I think it's fair to say, but anyway. Uh I think it's fair to say, but anyway. Uh I think it's fair to say, but I notic I notic I notic >> I think it's complicated. It's >> I think it's complicated. It's >> I think it's complicated. It's complicated.

complicated. complicated. >> It's complicated. It's complicated, >> It's complicated. It's complicated, >> It's complicated. It's complicated, right? Well, it's complicated for right? Well, it's complicated for right? Well, it's complicated for everybody all of a sudden. So I'm with everybody all of a sudden. So I'm with everybody all of a sudden. So I'm with you on the complexity, but I on the you on the complexity, but I on the you on the complexity, but I on the question of free speech. So I saw the question of free speech. So I saw the question of free speech. So I saw the Biden administration as totally opposed Biden administration as totally opposed Biden administration as totally opposed to free speech. They're pressuring to free speech. They're pressuring to free speech. They're pressuring social media companies to shut down social media companies to shut down social media companies to shut down people's accounts for disagreeing with people's accounts for disagreeing with people's accounts for disagreeing with them on COVID or lots of other topics. them on COVID or lots of other topics. them on COVID or lots of other topics. And I really believe that the Trump And I really believe that the Trump And I really believe that the Trump coalition was put there in part to coalition was put there in part to coalition was put there in part to defend free speech, free expression, defend free speech, free expression, defend free speech, free expression, free exchange of ideas, including those free exchange of ideas, including those free exchange of ideas, including those you disagree with. And yet it seems like you disagree with. And yet it seems like you disagree with. And yet it seems like a lot of its leaders pivoted almost a lot of its leaders pivoted almost a lot of its leaders pivoted almost immediately to a Biden-like position on immediately to a Biden-like position on immediately to a Biden-like position on speech where if I don't like you, I'm speech where if I don't like you, I'm speech where if I don't like you, I'm going to cancel you when they had just going to cancel you when they had just going to cancel you when they had just run against what they called cancel run against what they called cancel run against what they called cancel culture like 20 minutes before. Am I culture like 20 minutes before. Am I culture like 20 minutes before. Am I imagining that? imagining that? imagining that? >> No, you're not imagining it. And the >> No, you're not imagining it. And the >> No, you're not imagining it. And the fact of the matter is, regardless of fact of the matter is, regardless of fact of the matter is, regardless of which political side is doing it, and which political side is doing it, and which political side is doing it, and both political sides do it, both political sides do it, both political sides do it, >> yes, >> yes, >> yes, >> it's it's an attempt to hide something >> it's it's an attempt to hide something >> it's it's an attempt to hide something from the public, information that they from the public, information that they from the public, information that they don't want the public knowing about. And don't want the public knowing about. And don't want the public knowing about. And I think a big red flag, especially from I think a big red flag, especially from I think a big red flag, especially from the government is when they say they're the government is when they say they're the government is when they say they're doing something in the name of safety.

doing something in the name of safety. doing something in the name of safety. So, in the case of the Biden So, in the case of the Biden So, in the case of the Biden administration, we want to keep you administration, we want to keep you administration, we want to keep you safe. We don't want you to get COVID safe. We don't want you to get COVID safe. We don't want you to get COVID disinformation. disinformation. disinformation. uh in the case of the Trump uh in the case of the Trump uh in the case of the Trump administration and by the way also to administration and by the way also to administration and by the way also to some extent with Biden on the Israel some extent with Biden on the Israel some extent with Biden on the Israel issue uh there were efforts and have issue uh there were efforts and have issue uh there were efforts and have been efforts to essentially say we got been efforts to essentially say we got been efforts to essentially say we got to keep our Jewish community safe as as to keep our Jewish community safe as as to keep our Jewish community safe as as a result of that we can't let you say a result of that we can't let you say a result of that we can't let you say certain things that are critical of the certain things that are critical of the certain things that are critical of the Israeli government which obviously makes Israeli government which obviously makes Israeli government which obviously makes no sense and we shouldn't be conflating no sense and we shouldn't be conflating no sense and we shouldn't be conflating the Jewish population with a foreign the Jewish population with a foreign the Jewish population with a foreign country but you know Israel likes to country but you know Israel likes to country but you know Israel likes to hide behind human shields uh in their hide behind human shields uh in their hide behind human shields uh in their own way so they intentionally make that own way so they intentionally make that own way so they intentionally make that conflation. conflation. conflation. >> Um, but yeah, the word safety, once you >> Um, but yeah, the word safety, once you >> Um, but yeah, the word safety, once you hear the word safety, and by the way, hear the word safety, and by the way, hear the word safety, and by the way, I've seen every political faction use I've seen every political faction use I've seen every political faction use similar arguments, even on the far left, similar arguments, even on the far left, similar arguments, even on the far left, you know, stifling free speech on you know, stifling free speech on you know, stifling free speech on college campuses in some cases because college campuses in some cases because college campuses in some cases because students feel unsafe. And I'm sorry, in students feel unsafe. And I'm sorry, in students feel unsafe. And I'm sorry, in that particular context, you are going that particular context, you are going that particular context, you are going to an institution to learn obviously, to an institution to learn obviously, to an institution to learn obviously, but also to be made uncomfortable. Like but also to be made uncomfortable. Like but also to be made uncomfortable. Like you're not growing, you're not learning you're not growing, you're not learning you're not growing, you're not learning until you're actually being confronted until you're actually being confronted until you're actually being confronted with ideas that challenge your own.

with ideas that challenge your own. with ideas that challenge your own. >> Sure. And it's also a misread of the >> Sure. And it's also a misread of the >> Sure. And it's also a misread of the human condition. You're never safe. I human condition. You're never safe. I human condition. You're never safe. I mean, you the future is not assured. And mean, you the future is not assured. And mean, you the future is not assured. And resistance to your narcissism is just resistance to your narcissism is just resistance to your narcissism is just like a fact of life for everybody. And like a fact of life for everybody. And like a fact of life for everybody. And it ought to be. And that's how you it ought to be. And that's how you it ought to be. And that's how you become an adult, right? I mean, of become an adult, right? I mean, of become an adult, right? I mean, of course. So, you actually want course. So, you actually want course. So, you actually want confrontation because it draws you out confrontation because it draws you out confrontation because it draws you out of your own stupid little universe. Um, of your own stupid little universe. Um, of your own stupid little universe. Um, but I just wonder if the left did it but I just wonder if the left did it but I just wonder if the left did it with cancel culture and wokeness or with cancel culture and wokeness or with cancel culture and wokeness or whatever you want to call it, but that whatever you want to call it, but that whatever you want to call it, but that whole movement that we suffered through whole movement that we suffered through whole movement that we suffered through for so many years and now the right is for so many years and now the right is for so many years and now the right is doing exactly the same thing. They just doing exactly the same thing. They just doing exactly the same thing. They just picked a different victim. It was black picked a different victim. It was black picked a different victim. It was black people. Now it's Jewish people. It'll be people. Now it's Jewish people. It'll be people. Now it's Jewish people. It'll be somebody else. It's all it's always a somebody else. It's all it's always a somebody else. It's all it's always a cover for con protecting the people in cover for con protecting the people in cover for con protecting the people in charge. Then like who actually will charge. Then like who actually will charge. Then like who actually will defend free speech? defend free speech? defend free speech? Well, there have always been very loud Well, there have always been very loud Well, there have always been very loud voices that have been consistent on voices that have been consistent on voices that have been consistent on protecting free speech. You know, Glenn protecting free speech. You know, Glenn protecting free speech. You know, Glenn Greenwald happens to be one of them. He Greenwald happens to be one of them. He Greenwald happens to be one of them. He he's undeterred [clears throat] he's undeterred [clears throat] he's undeterred [clears throat] in that mission. And in fact, totally, in that mission. And in fact, totally, in that mission. And in fact, totally, >> the one area where he and I might have a >> the one area where he and I might have a >> the one area where he and I might have a disagreement on free speech is whether disagreement on free speech is whether disagreement on free speech is whether or not corporations are considered or not corporations are considered or not corporations are considered people with protected speech and thus people with protected speech and thus people with protected speech and thus can provide unlimited campaign bribes to can provide unlimited campaign bribes to can provide unlimited campaign bribes to politicians. Like he has defended that politicians. Like he has defended that politicians. Like he has defended that Supreme Court ruling. I have a different Supreme Court ruling. I have a different Supreme Court ruling. I have a different perspective on that. But in terms of in perspective on that. But in terms of in perspective on that. But in terms of in actual individuals practicing their free actual individuals practicing their free actual individuals practicing their free speech, he's always been consistent. And speech, he's always been consistent. And speech, he's always been consistent. And whether the cancel culture proponents whether the cancel culture proponents whether the cancel culture proponents like it or not, we do still have like it or not, we do still have like it or not, we do still have constitutional rights. And if someone is constitutional rights. And if someone is constitutional rights. And if someone is willing to take some issue to the court,

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admitting that now about our current admitting that now about our current explosion of identity politics around explosion of identity politics around explosion of identity politics around Israel. But my sense is that deep down Israel. But my sense is that deep down Israel. But my sense is that deep down though they may be afraid to say it, though they may be afraid to say it, though they may be afraid to say it, most people really resent this. Do you most people really resent this. Do you most people really resent this. Do you think that? Oh, I absolutely I know for think that? Oh, I absolutely I know for think that? Oh, I absolutely I know for a fact that people resent it, but people a fact that people resent it, but people a fact that people resent it, but people are terrified. are terrified. are terrified. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> And for me, the reason why I'm a >> And for me, the reason why I'm a >> And for me, the reason why I'm a loudmouth about things like this is loudmouth about things like this is loudmouth about things like this is because I know that when because I know that when because I know that when >> people see an individual public figure >> people see an individual public figure >> people see an individual public figure go out there go out there go out there unafraid to just say what needs to be unafraid to just say what needs to be unafraid to just say what needs to be said. It kind of gives them permission. said. It kind of gives them permission. said. It kind of gives them permission. It gives them a little more comfort to It gives them a little more comfort to It gives them a little more comfort to come out and say what they want to say. come out and say what they want to say. come out and say what they want to say. And we do need to foster that kind of And we do need to foster that kind of And we do need to foster that kind of environment. And I can't emphasize this environment. And I can't emphasize this environment. And I can't emphasize this enough. We can't give the sensorious enough. We can't give the sensorious enough. We can't give the sensorious people regardless of where they fall in people regardless of where they fall in people regardless of where they fall in the political spectrum or on the issue the political spectrum or on the issue the political spectrum or on the issue of Israel. We cannot give them an inch of Israel. We cannot give them an inch of Israel. We cannot give them an inch under any circumstance. So like for me, under any circumstance. So like for me, under any circumstance. So like for me, when they come at you with a bad faith when they come at you with a bad faith when they come at you with a bad faith allegation, allegation, allegation, the left falls for this almost every the left falls for this almost every the left falls for this almost every time, and I'm trying to get them to like time, and I'm trying to get them to like time, and I'm trying to get them to like think a little more savvy. U they're not think a little more savvy. U they're not think a little more savvy. U they're not looking for an apology. And in fact, if looking for an apology. And in fact, if looking for an apology. And in fact, if you do apologize when you haven't really you do apologize when you haven't really you do apologize when you haven't really said anything wrong to begin with, they said anything wrong to begin with, they said anything wrong to begin with, they see that as an admission of guilt. So see that as an admission of guilt. So see that as an admission of guilt. So don't give them an inch. Don't play don't give them an inch. Don't play don't give them an inch. Don't play their game. Don't play their game. A as their game. Don't play their game. A as their game. Don't play their game. A as long as what you actually said wasn't long as what you actually said wasn't long as what you actually said wasn't coming from a place of hate where you're coming from a place of hate where you're coming from a place of hate where you're trying to get people hurt. You're just trying to get people hurt. You're just trying to get people hurt. You're just sharing your perspective on something.

sharing your perspective on something. sharing your perspective on something. Don't let the bad faith actors convince Don't let the bad faith actors convince Don't let the bad faith actors convince you that maybe apologizing will make you that maybe apologizing will make you that maybe apologizing will make like this crazy mob go away. The mob is like this crazy mob go away. The mob is like this crazy mob go away. The mob is not going to go away unless you ignore not going to go away unless you ignore not going to go away unless you ignore them and double down. In fact, so them and double down. In fact, so them and double down. In fact, so [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> well, you've you >> well, you've you >> well, you've you got a congressional medal of honor for got a congressional medal of honor for got a congressional medal of honor for for that. I mean, that's definitely the for that. I mean, that's definitely the for that. I mean, that's definitely the way you approach it and God bless you way you approach it and God bless you way you approach it and God bless you for that. Graham Platner, what just for that. Graham Platner, what just for that. Graham Platner, what just happened to the political candidate in happened to the political candidate in happened to the political candidate in the state of Maine, Graham Platner, the state of Maine, Graham Platner, the state of Maine, Graham Platner, earlier this year seems like a pretty earlier this year seems like a pretty earlier this year seems like a pretty good example of what you're describing. good example of what you're describing. good example of what you're describing. Can you now that you know we've had a Can you now that you know we've had a Can you now that you know we've had a month or two to assess it, what what was month or two to assess it, what what was month or two to assess it, what what was that, do you think? that, do you think? that, do you think? Well, okay. So, let me back up and give Well, okay. So, let me back up and give Well, okay. So, let me back up and give you my perspective on Grand Platner and you my perspective on Grand Platner and you my perspective on Grand Platner and the entirety of his campaign. So, I'm in the entirety of his campaign. So, I'm in the entirety of his campaign. So, I'm in a kind of blackpilled place in life a kind of blackpilled place in life a kind of blackpilled place in life where, you know, the midterms are coming where, you know, the midterms are coming where, you know, the midterms are coming and everyone thinks it's like, oh, it's and everyone thinks it's like, oh, it's and everyone thinks it's like, oh, it's going to make all the diff. It's not going to make all the diff. It's not going to make all the diff. It's not going to make all the difference. Our going to make all the difference. Our going to make all the difference. Our political system's broken. political system's broken. political system's broken. >> And I don't really have a dog in this >> And I don't really have a dog in this >> And I don't really have a dog in this fight, believe it or not. So, when fight, believe it or not. So, when fight, believe it or not. So, when Graham Platner came on the scene, I'm Graham Platner came on the scene, I'm Graham Platner came on the scene, I'm like, same old, same old. Yes, you're like, same old, same old. Yes, you're like, same old, same old. Yes, you're going to do all these wonderful things going to do all these wonderful things going to do all these wonderful things for working-class Americans. I don't for working-class Americans. I don't for working-class Americans. I don't believe anybody. Okay, believe anybody. Okay, believe anybody. Okay, >> fair.

>> fair. >> fair. >> And then the tattoo thing happened, you >> And then the tattoo thing happened, you >> And then the tattoo thing happened, you know, and I sighed him because I'm like, know, and I sighed him because I'm like, know, and I sighed him because I'm like, how do you have like he at some point he how do you have like he at some point he how do you have like he at some point he realized the tattoo he got the skull and realized the tattoo he got the skull and realized the tattoo he got the skull and bones, he realized that it was like a bones, he realized that it was like a bones, he realized that it was like a Nazi symbol. He even admitted that. And Nazi symbol. He even admitted that. And Nazi symbol. He even admitted that. And then he kept it on his person for years then he kept it on his person for years then he kept it on his person for years until he ran for Congress and it became until he ran for Congress and it became until he ran for Congress and it became an issue. I thought that was weird, but an issue. I thought that was weird, but an issue. I thought that was weird, but whatever. It's not for me. It's not whatever. It's not for me. It's not whatever. It's not for me. It's not disqualifying necessarily. I just didn't disqualifying necessarily. I just didn't disqualifying necessarily. I just didn't buy his story. buy his story. buy his story. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Final thing though was the allegation of >> Final thing though was the allegation of >> Final thing though was the allegation of forcible rape, which forcible rape, which forcible rape, which >> I understand when someone has been raped >> I understand when someone has been raped >> I understand when someone has been raped and they're terrified to go to the and they're terrified to go to the and they're terrified to go to the authorities because sometimes it ends up authorities because sometimes it ends up authorities because sometimes it ends up backfiring when you go to the backfiring when you go to the backfiring when you go to the authorities. It's insult to injury and authorities. It's insult to injury and authorities. It's insult to injury and you go through a terrible time. If you you go through a terrible time. If you you go through a terrible time. If you don't have hard evidence, people are don't have hard evidence, people are don't have hard evidence, people are going to deny you or or blame you. It's going to deny you or or blame you. It's going to deny you or or blame you. It's awful. So, I can understand that. But awful. So, I can understand that. But awful. So, I can understand that. But the woman who accused him of forcible the woman who accused him of forcible the woman who accused him of forcible rape, uh, who she had been dating for rape, uh, who she had been dating for rape, uh, who she had been dating for two years, by the way, uh, decided, I'm two years, by the way, uh, decided, I'm two years, by the way, uh, decided, I'm not going to go to the authorities after not going to go to the authorities after not going to go to the authorities after he allegedly forcibly raped me. I'm just he allegedly forcibly raped me. I'm just he allegedly forcibly raped me. I'm just going to come out and talk about it in going to come out and talk about it in going to come out and talk about it in public as the, you know, primary for public as the, you know, primary for public as the, you know, primary for Platner's, you know, race approaches, Platner's, you know, race approaches, Platner's, you know, race approaches, thus forcing him to drop out. And then thus forcing him to drop out. And then thus forcing him to drop out. And then we never heard from her again. Did she we never heard from her again. Did she we never heard from her again. Did she ever go to the authorities? Is she ever go to the authorities? Is she ever go to the authorities? Is she comfortable with the fact that um if in comfortable with the fact that um if in comfortable with the fact that um if in fact she was allegedly raped by Graham fact she was allegedly raped by Graham fact she was allegedly raped by Graham Platner, well now he's free to go Platner, well now he's free to go Platner, well now he's free to go wherever he wants to go, do whatever he wherever he wants to go, do whatever he wherever he wants to go, do whatever he wants to do, and potentially rape

wants to do, and potentially rape wants to do, and potentially rape someone else. someone else. someone else. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> And and so for me, Tucker, I think the >> And and so for me, Tucker, I think the >> And and so for me, Tucker, I think the reason why she didn't go to the reason why she didn't go to the reason why she didn't go to the authorities authorities authorities >> and instead came out and told the entire >> and instead came out and told the entire >> and instead came out and told the entire world about what allegedly happened is world about what allegedly happened is world about what allegedly happened is because I don't believe it actually because I don't believe it actually because I don't believe it actually happened. I just don't. and the happened. I just don't. and the happened. I just don't. and the reporting on it uh intentionally omitted reporting on it uh intentionally omitted reporting on it uh intentionally omitted details that I think the public should details that I think the public should details that I think the public should have known about. Namely, right, namely have known about. Namely, right, namely have known about. Namely, right, namely the fact that she sends him a te the way the fact that she sends him a te the way the fact that she sends him a te the way their interaction started that night. their interaction started that night. their interaction started that night. She sends him a text message about how She sends him a text message about how She sends him a text message about how she needs a glute massage, she needs a glute massage, she needs a glute massage, >> but they omitted that from the >> but they omitted that from the >> but they omitted that from the reporting. I just to me it looks like a reporting. I just to me it looks like a reporting. I just to me it looks like a fishy story to say the least. fishy story to say the least. fishy story to say the least. >> The glute being the butt muscles. >> The glute being the butt muscles. >> The glute being the butt muscles. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Pretty provocative text. I mean, and >> Pretty provocative text. I mean, and >> Pretty provocative text. I mean, and look, I I wasn't there, you know, I look, I I wasn't there, you know, I look, I I wasn't there, you know, I wasn't dating Graham Platiner. I don't wasn't dating Graham Platiner. I don't wasn't dating Graham Platiner. I don't know, but that seems that seems like a know, but that seems that seems like a know, but that seems that seems like a relevant detail to me. Here's my take on relevant detail to me. Here's my take on relevant detail to me. Here's my take on it was less sophisticated than yours, it was less sophisticated than yours, it was less sophisticated than yours, but I was just trying to take a big but I was just trying to take a big but I was just trying to take a big picture assessment. So, here's a guy picture assessment. So, here's a guy picture assessment. So, here's a guy who's who's clearly going to beat Susan who's who's clearly going to beat Susan who's who's clearly going to beat Susan Collins, one of the most mediocre. She's Collins, one of the most mediocre. She's Collins, one of the most mediocre. She's a joke, of course, Susan Collins. Um, a joke, of course, Susan Collins. Um, a joke, of course, Susan Collins. Um, probably not an evil person, but like probably not an evil person, but like probably not an evil person, but like Susan Collins, come on now. He's going Susan Collins, come on now. He's going Susan Collins, come on now. He's going to beat her. He's a conventional to beat her. He's a conventional to beat her. He's a conventional Democrat in some ways, but the big issue Democrat in some ways, but the big issue Democrat in some ways, but the big issue on which he disagrees with his party's on which he disagrees with his party's on which he disagrees with his party's leadership is Israel. And he just says leadership is Israel. And he just says leadership is Israel. And he just says it. He's like that what's happening in it. He's like that what's happening in it. He's like that what's happening in Gaza is a crime because it is a crime.

Gaza is a crime because it is a crime. Gaza is a crime because it is a crime. And it's that issue that torpedoes his And it's that issue that torpedoes his And it's that issue that torpedoes his candidacy because his own party, candidacy because his own party, candidacy because his own party, including the state party in Maine, including the state party in Maine, including the state party in Maine, >> turns against him on orders from their >> turns against him on orders from their >> turns against him on orders from their donors. That that seemed to be what donors. That that seemed to be what donors. That that seemed to be what happened to me. But maybe I'm missing happened to me. But maybe I'm missing happened to me. But maybe I'm missing something. something. something. I mean, if you do take a step back and I mean, if you do take a step back and I mean, if you do take a step back and you look at the specific candidates who you look at the specific candidates who you look at the specific candidates who have beenounded and treated poorly have beenounded and treated poorly have beenounded and treated poorly throughout their primaries and even throughout their primaries and even throughout their primaries and even after they won their primaries, you'll after they won their primaries, you'll after they won their primaries, you'll notice that there is a through line. And notice that there is a through line. And notice that there is a through line. And that through line is that through line is that through line is criticism of Israel, criticism of US criticism of Israel, criticism of US criticism of Israel, criticism of US financial support for Israel's wars, financial support for Israel's wars, financial support for Israel's wars, genocides, atrocities, things like that. genocides, atrocities, things like that. genocides, atrocities, things like that. And um you can't argue that you want to And um you can't argue that you want to And um you can't argue that you want to be a public servant who genuinely be a public servant who genuinely be a public servant who genuinely believes in an America first agenda when believes in an America first agenda when believes in an America first agenda when you're okay with doing things like you're okay with doing things like you're okay with doing things like merging the IDF with the US military or merging the IDF with the US military or merging the IDF with the US military or continuing this like gravy train that we continuing this like gravy train that we continuing this like gravy train that we can't afford. We like we are literally can't afford. We like we are literally can't afford. We like we are literally going deeper and deeper and deeper into going deeper and deeper and deeper into going deeper and deeper and deeper into debt in order to pay for Israel's debt in order to pay for Israel's debt in order to pay for Israel's weapons. Trump just signed off on weapons. Trump just signed off on weapons. Trump just signed off on another $3 billion to for 2,000 lb bombs another $3 billion to for 2,000 lb bombs another $3 billion to for 2,000 lb bombs for Israel. They're not even paying for for Israel. They're not even paying for for Israel. They're not even paying for it. We're going to go into debt to it. We're going to go into debt to it. We're going to go into debt to provide it for them.

provide it for them. provide it for them. >> And that is an injustice. And these are >> And that is an injustice. And these are >> And that is an injustice. And these are the types of things they don't want us the types of things they don't want us the types of things they don't want us talking about. They want us to shut up. talking about. They want us to shut up. talking about. They want us to shut up. There is nothing in my commentary right There is nothing in my commentary right There is nothing in my commentary right now that even touches on, you know, the now that even touches on, you know, the now that even touches on, you know, the Jewish identity, right? It's about Jewish identity, right? It's about Jewish identity, right? It's about morality. It's about finite resources. morality. It's about finite resources. morality. It's about finite resources. It's about doing what's right for the It's about doing what's right for the It's about doing what's right for the American people as a member of the American people as a member of the American people as a member of the political class. And somehow that is political class. And somehow that is political class. And somehow that is considered like incredibly outrageous, considered like incredibly outrageous, considered like incredibly outrageous, dangerous, and offensive to say. And dangerous, and offensive to say. And dangerous, and offensive to say. And other candidates who have said things other candidates who have said things other candidates who have said things like this tend to be the ones who are like this tend to be the ones who are like this tend to be the ones who are targeted um maniacally by people like targeted um maniacally by people like targeted um maniacally by people like Laura Loomer, who by the way, last June, Laura Loomer, who by the way, last June, Laura Loomer, who by the way, last June, I don't know if people know this, uh was I don't know if people know this, uh was I don't know if people know this, uh was bitching about the fact that not enough bitching about the fact that not enough bitching about the fact that not enough Americans hate Muslims, so maybe we need Americans hate Muslims, so maybe we need Americans hate Muslims, so maybe we need another 9/11. another 9/11. another 9/11. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So what what does that make you think So what what does that make you think So what what does that make you think when somebody who's you know a very when somebody who's you know a very when somebody who's you know a very powerful player for some reason at this powerful player for some reason at this powerful player for some reason at this moment within our political process moment within our political process moment within our political process calls for another 9/11. I mean that that calls for another 9/11. I mean that that calls for another 9/11. I mean that that seems like a extraordinary thing to say.

seems like a extraordinary thing to say. seems like a extraordinary thing to say. I not only is it extraordinary I not only is it extraordinary I not only is it extraordinary I I think it I I think it I I think it the bigger picture I think the the bigger picture I think the the bigger picture I think the overarching issue that I'm struggling overarching issue that I'm struggling overarching issue that I'm struggling with with with is what like what is my identity because is what like what is my identity because is what like what is my identity because I've always identified as American I've I've always identified as American I've I've always identified as American I've always identified it as American right always identified it as American right always identified it as American right like I love this country I want to like I love this country I want to like I love this country I want to defend this country I want to live here defend this country I want to live here defend this country I want to live here for the rest of my life my f you know my for the rest of my life my f you know my for the rest of my life my f you know my family my brother is raising his four family my brother is raising his four family my brother is raising his four kids here I want them to thrive I want kids here I want them to thrive I want kids here I want them to thrive I want everyone to thrive but there are so many everyone to thrive but there are so many everyone to thrive but there are so many different things happening different things happening different things happening simultaneously right now, Tucker, that simultaneously right now, Tucker, that simultaneously right now, Tucker, that makes me think, oh my god, like we are makes me think, oh my god, like we are makes me think, oh my god, like we are surrounded by people who don't really surrounded by people who don't really surrounded by people who don't really see this as their country. Like they see this as their country. Like they see this as their country. Like they just just just it's like a commuter country. Like you it's like a commuter country. Like you it's like a commuter country. Like you come in, you take what you need, and come in, you take what you need, and come in, you take what you need, and then you go. And so when you have then you go. And so when you have then you go. And so when you have someone like Laura Loomer saying, "Maybe someone like Laura Loomer saying, "Maybe someone like Laura Loomer saying, "Maybe we need another 9/11." Disgusting. Okay. we need another 9/11." Disgusting. Okay. we need another 9/11." Disgusting. Okay. When you see the willingness of our When you see the willingness of our When you see the willingness of our lawmakers to sell out our own country, lawmakers to sell out our own country, lawmakers to sell out our own country, put us deeper and deeper into debt on put us deeper and deeper into debt on put us deeper and deeper into debt on behalf of a foreign country, it it just behalf of a foreign country, it it just behalf of a foreign country, it it just disgust. It just feels like everything disgust. It just feels like everything disgust. It just feels like everything here is being exploited for other here is being exploited for other here is being exploited for other purposes.

purposes. purposes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And I'm angry about it. And I know other >> And I'm angry about it. And I know other >> And I'm angry about it. And I know other Americans are angry about it. Ela Chow, Americans are angry about it. Ela Chow, Americans are angry about it. Ela Chow, Ela Chow turns out to have worked for Ela Chow turns out to have worked for Ela Chow turns out to have worked for the Chinese government while serving in the Chinese government while serving in the Chinese government while serving in the the Trump administration. That was a the the Trump administration. That was a the the Trump administration. That was a huge story that was uh broken by the huge story that was uh broken by the huge story that was uh broken by the Daily Caller. I just reported on it Daily Caller. I just reported on it Daily Caller. I just reported on it yesterday on our show. How is that okay? yesterday on our show. How is that okay? yesterday on our show. How is that okay? How is that okay? How is that okay? How is that okay? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> A two-time cabinet secretary in two >> A two-time cabinet secretary in two >> A two-time cabinet secretary in two separate administrations. Her husband separate administrations. Her husband separate administrations. Her husband was Senate Majority Leader and she's was Senate Majority Leader and she's was Senate Majority Leader and she's working for China. And of course, working for China. And of course, working for China. And of course, there'll be there will never be any there'll be there will never be any there'll be there will never be any attempt to hold Ela Chow accountable for attempt to hold Ela Chow accountable for attempt to hold Ela Chow accountable for that ever. that ever. that ever. >> Um it's crazy. >> Um it's crazy. >> Um it's crazy. >> But at least I guess here's the the the >> But at least I guess here's the the the >> But at least I guess here's the the the point of my thoughts today on this point of my thoughts today on this point of my thoughts today on this specific topic. At least we can still specific topic. At least we can still specific topic. At least we can still acknowledge it, report the truth about acknowledge it, report the truth about acknowledge it, report the truth about it, try to call other people's attention it, try to call other people's attention it, try to call other people's attention to it, rally support for some kind of to it, rally support for some kind of to it, rally support for some kind of solution to it. That's why speech is solution to it. That's why speech is solution to it. That's why speech is important. And I just wonder given that important. And I just wonder given that important. And I just wonder given that all of our conversations take place all of our conversations take place all of our conversations take place digitally and the digital platforms are digitally and the digital platforms are digitally and the digital platforms are owned by people who clearly are not owned by people who clearly are not owned by people who clearly are not committed to the concept of free speech, committed to the concept of free speech, committed to the concept of free speech, like how long does this last?

>> I don't know. But I'm not going to stop. >> I don't know. But I'm not going to stop. I'm not going to stop and I'm willing to I'm not going to stop and I'm willing to I'm not going to stop and I'm willing to I mean there have already been I mean there have already been I mean there have already been consequences for me personally and I consequences for me personally and I consequences for me personally and I haven't stopped and I'm going to keep haven't stopped and I'm going to keep haven't stopped and I'm going to keep going. going. going. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Because the ability to express yourself >> Because the ability to express yourself >> Because the ability to express yourself is one of the most precious rights that is one of the most precious rights that is one of the most precious rights that we have in this country and I don't we have in this country and I don't we have in this country and I don't think that we should give it up think that we should give it up think that we should give it up willy-nilly. I I think some people have willy-nilly. I I think some people have willy-nilly. I I think some people have been willing to do that but honestly if been willing to do that but honestly if been willing to do that but honestly if it takes it takes it takes sacrificing potentially everything I'm sacrificing potentially everything I'm sacrificing potentially everything I'm going to keep speaking my mind. Yes. I going to keep speaking my mind. Yes. I going to keep speaking my mind. Yes. I know no other way. It's torture to not know no other way. It's torture to not know no other way. It's torture to not be able to speak your mind. I I can't be able to speak your mind. I I can't be able to speak your mind. I I can't imagine living in that type of society. imagine living in that type of society. imagine living in that type of society. So, look, there are consequences So, look, there are consequences So, look, there are consequences already. Luckily, I work for Jenkuger already. Luckily, I work for Jenkuger already. Luckily, I work for Jenkuger and Jen Uger really does believe in free and Jen Uger really does believe in free and Jen Uger really does believe in free speech and even if he does, speech and even if he does, speech and even if he does, >> you know, we have some big fights on the >> you know, we have some big fights on the >> you know, we have some big fights on the show time to time and he's never once show time to time and he's never once show time to time and he's never once retaliated against me because we retaliated against me because we retaliated against me because we disagree and I I just love that I'm disagree and I I just love that I'm disagree and I I just love that I'm lucky enough to work for him. lucky enough to work for him. lucky enough to work for him. >> Um, but even if he ended up firing me >> Um, but even if he ended up firing me >> Um, but even if he ended up firing me for speaking my mind, where there's a for speaking my mind, where there's a for speaking my mind, where there's a will, there's a way. And if it means will, there's a way. And if it means will, there's a way. And if it means that I have to do menial work uh to make that I have to do menial work uh to make that I have to do menial work uh to make ends meet in order to continue being ends meet in order to continue being ends meet in order to continue being able to speak my mind, I'm going to keep able to speak my mind, I'm going to keep able to speak my mind, I'm going to keep speaking my mind. But here's what I speaking my mind. But here's what I speaking my mind. But here's what I would say to the audience because this would say to the audience because this would say to the audience because this is really important. How about we don't is really important. How about we don't is really important. How about we don't give into these people anymore? How give into these people anymore? How give into these people anymore? How about we have each other's backs as about we have each other's backs as about we have each other's backs as Americans?

Americans? Americans? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You get what I'm saying? >> You get what I'm saying? >> You get what I'm saying? >> Oh yes. So, like the whole Mmore >> Oh yes. So, like the whole Mmore >> Oh yes. So, like the whole Mmore debacle, I think the way that that debacle, I think the way that that debacle, I think the way that that played out was kind of fantastic because played out was kind of fantastic because played out was kind of fantastic because there's a lot of rage among Americans there's a lot of rage among Americans there's a lot of rage among Americans who don't think he said anything wrong. who don't think he said anything wrong. who don't think he said anything wrong. Even Jesse Waters, he's like, "What did Even Jesse Waters, he's like, "What did Even Jesse Waters, he's like, "What did he he said? Free Palestine. I don't he he said? Free Palestine. I don't he he said? Free Palestine. I don't think that's hate speech." And so, think that's hate speech." And so, think that's hate speech." And so, people having Mammore's back. And in people having Mammore's back. And in people having Mammore's back. And in fact, Ed Sheeran being a coward in this fact, Ed Sheeran being a coward in this fact, Ed Sheeran being a coward in this scenario has now lost like half a scenario has now lost like half a scenario has now lost like half a million followers on social media million followers on social media million followers on social media because he didn't stand up for what was because he didn't stand up for what was because he didn't stand up for what was right. And so I love to see that. Let's right. And so I love to see that. Let's right. And so I love to see that. Let's do more of that. Let's have each other's do more of that. Let's have each other's do more of that. Let's have each other's backs because you're not just defending backs because you're not just defending backs because you're not just defending one person. You're defending the whole one person. You're defending the whole one person. You're defending the whole concept of freedom of expression. concept of freedom of expression. concept of freedom of expression. >> Amen. My boy. And on that note, thank >> Amen. My boy. And on that note, thank >> Amen. My boy. And on that note, thank you. Thank you for everything you've you. Thank you for everything you've you. Thank you for everything you've done to preserve and expand the done to preserve and expand the done to preserve and expand the boundaries of speech at cost to boundaries of speech at cost to boundaries of speech at cost to yourself. And I I really think you'll be yourself. And I I really think you'll be yourself. And I I really think you'll be >> whatever you're going through now, I >> whatever you're going through now, I >> whatever you're going through now, I think you'll be rewarded for it in the think you'll be rewarded for it in the think you'll be rewarded for it in the end. I I believe that. So Anna Caspian, end. I I believe that. So Anna Caspian, end. I I believe that. So Anna Caspian, thank you very much.

thank you very much. thank you very much. >> Thanks, Tucker.